@thor i'd guess the real issue is that the latte ones are just the most vocal ones.. just like the "ban all non electric cars everywhere" greens. unfortunately those who scream loudest have the most influence today.

regarding germany, i'd like to think that the greens actually would have a pretty good chance of gaining votes in rural areas if they'd stop painting farmers as evil assholes. why not a programme that says "we help you to switch to ecological farming with this big amount of money!". germany spends money for all kind of bullshit, we _have_ the money. my guess is that localized ecological food production would do more for the climate than banning non electric cars (which is effectively just a subvention for car manufacturers..). many farmers, especially the environmentally & socially valuable small ones would do _anything_ to get to more stable financial grounds. you won't motivate them by saying "stop using liquid manure and fertilizer, we are banning that!". it's like with the vaccine, nobody is more likely to get it because you paint unvaccinated as granny killers.

it's just not as easy to actually do something sensible instead of screaming at people that they are bad. greens are as lazy as every politician 🤷‍♀️

@bonifartius @thor aren't the DE greens bloodthirsty neoliberals? that's what i've heard, anyway
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of course they are. i just outlined what they should do if they really cared for the environment and not their own pockets :)

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