>CDC issues urgent alert: Pregnant women need the Covid-19 vaccine
totally normal, right?
@kino The research about what an COVID infection does to for example a rapidly growing placenta to match a rapidly growing baby is alarming. Per one paper I stumbled upon, it “remodels” the placental blood vessels, making them about twice as thick. Nothing in that paper about observed pathology, but that doesn’t sound good to me, and I’ve heard second hand there’s other papers with worrisome results.
Note also by now we have scads of data from Phase IV “post-marketing” using of the vaccines, which includes pregnant women, plus of course the animal studies that were done on fertility and reproduction.
Here, you’re responding to the CDC having just? drawn up a list of cohorts of people they believe to be at higher risk. This being the CDC you shouldn’t pay any attention to it, not collecing and tallying raw data like death certificates, but they’re probably right. And right to push it since those under 30 are not generally in as great need to get vaccinated.
Pregnant women aren't supposed to get any vaccines during pregnancy, especially ones that have an active molecule.
This is also despite of the fact that at least 75% of the juice doesn't stay in the shoulder area but goes through out the body.
I don't care if they are right. The chances of getting covid are less than the 100% guarantee of getting the shot and having complications with it. Why guarantee take a shot at getting complications when you can just go on with your life like before and not get the corona. Why do choose to increase your chances of risk rather than simply avoid risk all together?
Honestly, I wouldn't even click this link (seriously, you can just know it is a link of a child with birth defects being sung to, no need to actually watch): twitter.com/Monica24Minion/status/1443120003159666693?s=20
Says the mother got Pfizer at 1month. No idea what the background is on this one. But read another article ( eviemagazine.com/post/study-miscarriage-rate-covid-vaccine ) with a limited sample that returned some devastatingly bad data for trimester one and two vaccinations.
The crushing amount of technocratic information control makes it really difficult to parse what scraps do make it through.
it truly pains me how these babies have to suffer and live with life-long injuries caused by blind trust and blind fear.
At times, I wish this really was the Black Death so these people's hysterical fear would be justified.
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@Dice
if it would really be about the women and children, we just would do any fucking thing to prevent them of getting it. like for example, giving expecting families enough money so that they don't have to work and have to put their other children into daycare where they get covid from. problem solved. ez.
it's not that we don't have the money, but the oligarchs and their friends just want total control instead to make more money using our workforce.
think of all the fertility treadments and medicine for fucked up kids you can sell. covid really is a thing where pharma only can win. get fucked up by covid, get fucked up by the vaccinations, get magic medicine to fix those issues.
i know follow the money is a trope at this point, it's still the truth though.
@racism_man @Dice @Flay @bonifartius @kino “After a year and a half as the center of attention for the entire planet, I have to doubt that this virus is not understood.”
How much biology and/or medicine have you studied and/or learned? Can you tell me how many Open Reading Frames (ORFs) it has, and what that means, including for its complexity? Can you look that up??
Or for a different approach, research how little we understand about the flu, and especially flu pandemics.
TL;DR: there’s still a great deal we don’t know about the virus.
“I think it’s fairly apparent that the power structure has been bullshitting about it and using it to be gay and make people pretend it’s a big deal.”
I wonder if you’re just a “Racism Man,” of if you hate people in general if you think losing [fill in the blank for your country from all cause mortality counts] people is not a “big deal.” This avoids a lot of Floomer and denialist stupidity and will get under counting like the very significant excess mortality for non-hospitalized cases (8% in six months for 30 day survivors for a not super old population that and started out healthy enough to be in the US military: https://www.unz.com/isteve/when-will-biden-finally-shut-down-flights-from-india/#comment-4613645 )
For the US, for just people with COVID on their death certificates, it’s 692,000 people (and that number includes a delay time as long as eight weeks for the CDC to get the data). Ron Unz looking at total excess deaths plausably estimates a million, I’ve been too lazy and horrified to do the math. Adjusting for population increase (which on the other hand started with a minimum deficit of half a million people and their children; I lost a granduncle), we’re looking to get in the ballpark of the 1918-9 Spanish flu.
So I say both a big deal and “You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” as Rahm Emmanuel, Obama’s first chief of staff put it. A pandemic in a county in a state of civil war was never going to go well. Look how many right of center Americans are dying now just to own the libs; that our ruling trash is trash is no justification I recognized.
All of it
>Can you tell me how many Open Reading Frames (ORFs) it has, and what that means, including for its complexity?
Yes
>Can you look that up??
Don't need to
>Or for a different approach, research how little we understand about the flu, and especially flu pandemics.
I already know
>TL;DR: there’s still a great deal we don’t know about the virus.
Ok so why should I do what these faggots who don't know shit tell me to do
>I wonder if you’re just a “Racism Man,” of if you hate people in general if you think losing [fill in the blank for your country from all cause mortality counts] people is not a “big deal.” This avoids a lot of Floomer and denialist stupidity and will get under counting like the very significant excess mortality for non-hospitalized cases (8% in six months for 30 day survivors for a not super old population that and started out healthy enough to be in the US military
You're implying that racism means hate, doesn't vouch for your credibility very well. Anyway I only know of one irl person who died from it out of countless who've had it, and that guy was already super unhealthy. It's not worth changing our entire lives for such a minute portion of the population
>For the US, for just people with COVID on their death certificates, it’s 692,000 people (and that number includes a delay time as long as eight weeks for the CDC to get the data). Ron Unz looking at total excess deaths plausably estimates a million, I’ve been too lazy and horrified to do the math. Adjusting for population increase (which on the other hand started with a minimum deficit of half a million people and their children; I lost a granduncle), we’re looking to get in the ballpark of the 1918-9 Spanish flu.
Cool that's, like, .2% of the population
>So I say both a big deal and “You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” as Rahm Emmanuel, Obama’s first chief of staff put it. A pandemic in a county in a state of civil war was never going to go well. Look how many right of center Americans are dying now just to own the libs; that our ruling trash is trash is no justification I recognized.
lmfao
Most of the people who advocate and do treatment of covid I am sure know very well, how much of a flu this is and they simply only care for the people who had it bad enough to enter a hospital.
Their view is skewed even if we don't count for data manipulation by simple definition change, the 98% of people will not even end up in the hospital.
When this is the definition used by nations, no, I don't think even 99% of people are dying OF covid.
You people won't even accept as baseline, let's agree to this, so we can discus things and the responses without going sideways too much, things the government says officially about their activities and you linking to me to science that you don't even bother to explain to people WHO YOU MUST KNOW they don't have a medical background and put in simple terms and analogies. When doctors say even to adult patients analogies on their conditions, I assume the best, that they know enough that if explained in actual detail it would take too long and the analogy does it's job of conveying the situation across to the medically illiterate well enough. And hell, considering the basic biology I learned in jr.High and High, the doctor could spend some time actually telling me what is happening in very simply terms, without going through rigorous details of how substances end up inside my cells and how my body really reacts to foreign objects inside it.
You are overreacting to the actions of malicious actors and instead of re-assessing your premise, you continue on your paradigm of fearmongering and the like.
Cancers can have less survival rates yet getting cancer hasn't stopped people around me from smoking, despite evidence to support it gives cancer or even evidence to say it doesn't, they simply don't care.
And so they do the same here, despite overwhelming evidence that this virus is but a common cold, people don't care about the data, so they stay afraid and you sharing the science of how we don't truly understand it, is completely irrelevant to the most undisputed of all realities that even the normies don't accept;
That THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE ON.
Your vaccine is almost on the same time-scale as the virus itself, making your arguments of ''long term effects'' null as the same can be said about the vaccine, barring it's ''short term effects.''
JUST FROM THE END RESULT OF ALL RECORDED CASES, NO MATTER HOW CORRUPTED THEY DATA may be, IT SAYS
''99% OF YOUR WILL LIVE'' and considering people can live in this modern world even without limbs I will fucking take that stat and cling to it to counter all your bullshit claims about the unknowns and the dangers of this virus.
So instead of letting them just live in knowing they will probably not contract the virus, you want to inject them with a soup you don't know the consequences of because you claim we don't understand the virus enough as well.
poa.st/notice/ABuGWyIMBQDTNMxUTQ
and yet here you are, proselytizing dissidents about a vaccine that women are apparently fainting over like the Beatles or some shit. Seethe somewhere else...
oh wait, you preemptively blocked me.
can someone not blocked please let ThatWouldBeShilling know they are a queer, thanks.
@bonifartius @Dice @Flay @kino “if it would really be about the women and children, we just would do any fucking thing to prevent them of getting it. like for example, giving expecting families enough money so that they don’t have to work and have to put their other children into daycare where they get covid from. problem solved. ez.”
Here we see the thinking of someone who puts money in front of all other considerations. Nothing less than lethal force will stop a bunch of those expectant mothers in isolation from getting this initially and still not well understood respiratory spread virus from any subset of her husband, kids and friends.
More and more I”m realizing the single biggest advantage of vaccines is that they work even for people as stupid as you.