@dushman @giru
look at what people buy in the supermarket and you have the answer :)
i think my health improved much since i started to cook almost every meal myself and buy non shitty whole grain bread from a bakery for when i don't want to cook.
now i only have to quit coffee and nicotine (at least not smoking 💁 ). sweet sweet uppers.

@dushman @giru all are fine in moderation imho. i think i'm just interested of how it would feel to not consume any of those. much of the reason i do use them is self-medication i think.