@markusl
> You might want to read a little about deindividuation. People just like you and me do things in crowds that they'd never do alone.

well, i thought we learned enough about that in school here in germany. turns out we don't by how easily people were riled up to blame everything on the "antivaxx". if you read the comment sections of the newspapers here it's quite frightening how much people jerk off to "round'em up" fantasies. hell, even politicians or other public figues say things like not vaccinated shouldn't be allowed treatment in hospitals. even recently someone of a big industrial company said that people should either take the vaccine or effectively die if they get ill.

so yes, i know enough about deindividuation.

i always said that if i were there in germany 1933, i'd probably just go along. that's how things work. i'm sure all the people claiming to be antifa now would love a movement like national socialism. most love having well defined enemies and learned nothing from history.

the current protests went big the moment people were forced to do completely irrational things _to themselves_. nearly no one complained about wearing a mask for shopping. protests against forcing people to get injections (or get their lives fucked) are everything but fascism. there might be different motivations for each one, but they are united in limits of fuckery by the government they wont tolerate. they aren't impervious to influence, the influence of having done nothing wrong save for not having answered "how high?".

this isn't about the vaccines anymore, this is about how much does everyone want his life to be controlled by some big cheese who got there by being the biggst asshole (that's how politics work).

so, saying that the protests are just because of some psyop (by whom exactly? russia?) is saying that people are dumb and should shut up because they _might_ be manipulated. which is effectively equal to democracy is done.