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again here random guy on the net reading things after tls terminated is not the problem for things which are public spaces. never was. it's completely irrelevant if someone can read public messages, they are public. you can consider it alternative client.

https increasing noise is a different topic on a different layer.

that mailing lists aren't encrypted says nothing about the use of encrypted emails. it's two seperate problem spaces solved by each.

i don't like cdn bullshit as well, i think matrix.org being this big is problematic - funnily enough the opposite argument is used for signal because "hide in teh crowd!!1" - but this FUD-maxxing isn't helping anyone.

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@bonifartius @somegirlprivacy @waweic @session @sb A public room is not a synonym of a free access room. I’m in an instance with public rooms into which other federated users can be invited or ask to join, but admins need to accept them, can be banned and identity need to be confirmed by every member (if you want to communicate with every member). I certainly appreciate that the admins and owners have no clue what we’re talking about. I also appreciate that if the instance is hacked and the content is leaked, it’s still encrypted. Can an admin connect, log everything and publish it into the internet? Of course. That can happen in a 1:1 conversation as well. Following that logic encryption is useless in every scenario, which is not. It is not the only and last solution for everything and anything either as still, for me, is a must and the reason why I don’t join most of channels.
@bonifartius @somegirlprivacy @waweic @session @sb More to your point, Matrix is an open standard into which you join an instance. In the scenario in which you join an instance that don’t own or trust you’re relying in the good faith of the owners of the instance. To that extent I don’t see major differences that can be proved or checked against any other service. And still I trust way more the Matrix Foundation than FaceBook, for instance.
@bonifartius @sb @session @somegirlprivacy @waweic ...and I also appreciate the need of providing my encryption key in case my user tries to log in (and succeeds) using a different device.
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