The wikipedia snippet that I posted clearly states they corroborated something like *11* possible bodies that appeared on satellites with confirmed bodies that reporters filmed on the ground in early April once Ukraine took the city back. Also a few other bodies here and there that were identified and later corroborated by reporters on the ground, but 11 was the biggest individual group that was identified and later corroborated.

11. Not 200 or however many boxes are sitting there. You decided these boxes must be the bodies, when they weren't, and are scoffing at how ridiculous it is that anyone would conclude that they were dead bodies, when no one did. Come on, man.

@dave @bonifartius oh jeez oh man, 11 bodies

Something like 1000 were murdered, and many more tortured or raped. 11 was the largest group that was located outside and visible to satellite and for whatever reason left untouched. Most went into the mass grave(s).

@dave @bonifartius if russia is so evil why don't they just thermobaric bomb the area instead of losing troops for no reason

Among other things, Russia knows that the more horrific their tactics, the greater the support Ukraine will receive from the West. Ukraine knows this too, that's why Ukraine was shining a light on it, and Russian state media officials are trying to frame Ukraine for it.

Russia can't just do whatever it wants. Start openly murdering entire towns of civilians, and NATO might just reconsider its stance of not putting boots on the ground. At the very least it's going to mean Ukraine gets even more arms.

@dave @bonifartius why did they massacre a bunch of people but had humanitarian corridors for non-combatants?

@dave @bonifartius why did ukranian police have a "clearing op" in bucha a day before dead bodies went viral? why did they shell the area after russia had already left?

https://sputniknews.com/20220404/ukrainian-police-claimed-cleaning-op-in-bucha-a-day-before-publishing-videos-of-dead-bodies-1094458090.html

@dave @bonifartius why would russia bring in rations for people in bucha, shoot them, and then leave?

@bonifartius @dave why would russia massacre a bunch of civilians just before peace talks were going to happen and risk ukraine getting more support from the west? this is just dumb, come on

@e Western sanctions plays like "you may not pay, you have not paid, you are in default" really make it hard to take their propaganda seriously. It is a very dishonest, underhanded approach and I'd be shocked if it doesn't result in serious retaliation. Russians are rigid people.

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@NEETzsche @dave @bonifartius >really make it hard to take their propaganda seriously
remember when the new york times covered up the holodomor?

@dave I think moves like "you may not pay, you have not paid, you are in default" are a provocation that will more likely result in extreme actions like exterminations of towns that don't surrender, or that do and then play undermining games afterward.

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@dave @e @bonifartius nonsense the bs put out by Ukraine is easily exposed like the recent "assault on the shopping mall"

That there's a wikipedia article means that the event was significant. Not just a few burglars getting taped to a tree.

@dave @bonifartius @e didn't I cover that? It's very serious!!! wikipedia only has serious things on it and is always accurate!

@bonifartius @dave @bonifartius @krruzic there's a Wikipedia article on John "Brianna" Wu's harassment.

Would you say the murder and torture of 1000 civilians during a 4 week period of Russian occupation of just one city is unworthy of a wikipedia article?

@bonifartius @dave @bonifartius @krruzic
Yeah, because it's made up bullshit.

@bonifartius @dave @bonifartius @krruzic
But in that case, it's perfect for Wikipedia because almost all current events on there are bullshit.