it is okay to just… not use any JS framework. i am sometimes just startled at the assumption from so many pros that you *need* one.

you can just.. write plain JS.
it won’t hurt. I promise.

frameworks are a relic of a time when cross browser differences were so dire you needed some abstraction.

now you kinda only need that for the newer APIs that have differences still like storage, and audio. these APIs didn’t exist at all when frameworks started and aren’t even addresses by them.

we have es modules now. free yourself from the shackles of your build systems

Am I saying Never Use Frameworks?
Am I saying Never Use Components?

nope. I am not. get yourselves a reading lesson.

lotta people coming here just to tell me they hate javascript.

just FYI, i muted you because i don’t think you will have anything interesting to say ever.

not that javascript is perfect or the best language, but you do realise all programming languages are terrible right? and the only reason you like some more than others is because it’s what you’re used to?

“X language sucks and it’s the worst and I hate it”

boring, unhelpful, not very thoughtful, based on pure emotion

“X language is useful for Y, but has Z flaws you should watch out for if you don’t wanna waste a lot of time”

productive, helpful, interesting, practical, geared towards getting stuff done instead of implying people are stupid for liking something

@zens

Here is the reason, I think that JS is causing me more pain than necessary. Solve a and b;

Easy... a=22, b=23

@zens But noooo....

@niclas oh damn your contrived example that has never once appeared in any real code project has sure showed me