youtube.com/watch?v=0rO9DDganV

Death rates compared between the jabbed and us others.

It doesn't surprise me one bit.

Vaccine misinfo 

@niclas Huge assumption at 1:30.

Q: What group of people are most likely to be unvaccinated?

A: People who have certain health issues related to vaccines (ie allergies)

Q: What group of people has an abnormally high concern for their health?

A: People who know they may be killed by things that would not kill other people.

Q: What group of people is least likely to die over any given period?

A: People who have an abnormally high level of care for their own health.

People who are unvaccinated may have a lower death rate because people who are unvaccinated likely *can't* get vaccinated, and people who can't get vaccinated likely pay attention to their own health to an abnormally high degree. This seems like an absolutely reasonable line of thought.

The "clever way of looking at it" does not account for the fact that people who had gotten the vaccine would be spreading the virus at a higher rate, causing people who are more vulnerable to be more likely to be exposed. The clever way of looking at it is clever because it creates imaginary numbers to push the narrative that they want to push.
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@robby @niclas
> People who are unvaccinated may have a lower death rate because people who are unvaccinated likely *can't* get vaccinated, and people who can't get vaccinated likely pay attention to their own health to an abnormally high degree. This seems like an absolutely reasonable line of thought.

you are saying that requiring two assumptions is less likely wrong than just one :)

i don't think you have several million people who can't get those injections in the UK.

anecdotal point: all the people i know who are unvaccinated are healthy on normal levels and don't have to be especially careful wrt to their health.

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@bonifartius @niclas Why would people who are unvaccinated who cannot be vaccinated tell you? Why would people who are unvaccinated who can be vaccinated tell you? I don’t think people who are unvaccinated because they cannot be vaccinated would want to tell you. This is in contrast to the people who are unvaccinated because of social influences, who would want to tell you about it.

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@robby @niclas with so many people here in germany (should be roughly comparable to the UK), about 10 million, who haven't received the so called vaccination:

either the vaccine was horribly unsafe for millions in all age groups. which it _clearly_ wasn't according to what officials say and what has happened. it would mean those in power lied to us!

or we would have millions in all age groups who are _so_ sick already they can't get the vaccine. in reality those already sick were primarily targeted for the vaccine and received it early, so this really can't be the reason as well. there were nearly no exemptions from the entry rules granted here.

alternatively we can just take the simplest explanation for what we see: the safe and effective vaccines are a scam and actively hurting people.

john campbell was a proponent of the vaccines earlier, but managed to keep the ability for sane reasoning. a lost art, apparently.

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@bonifartius @niclas

> or we would have millions in all age groups who are so sick already they can’t get the vaccine. in reality those already sick were primarily targeted for the vaccine and received it early, so this really can’t be the reason as well. there were nearly no exemptions from the entry rules granted here.

I guess you don't realize that "so sick" here is not something you can see. People in fact do live their lives with autoimmune diseases, allergies, and other complications that would render vaccines unsafe.

These people have no reason to tell *you* about their issues. Assuming they don't have any vecause they do not tell *you* is simply ignorant.

I was a proponant *against* the vaccine initially, but managed to keep the ability for sane reasoning. A lost art, apparently.
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