China launches world’s fastest internet with 1.2 terabit per second link, years ahead of forecasts
Yeah! Well done China, however, a faster interest won't protect your people from the #ClimateCrisis
@scientist @zleap maybe if everyone took transition off fossil fuels as seriously as China, we wouldn't be facing a climate crisis https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-chinas-emissions-set-to-fall-in-2024-after-record-growth-in-clean-energy/
Whilst many folk point a "finger" at China for being one of the top greenhouse gas emitters, and arguably a lot of their lower carbon infrastructure is in addition too, not replacing fossil fuels, China does of course export many products to Europe, etc.
However, the USA is the top greenhouse gas emitter per person.
It's going to require a cultural evolution to develop enough people that have the primary premise of developing an ecologically sustainable society.
@scientist @zleap right, it's important to consider emissions per capita, but the more important point you're making is that we really need to think of reducing emissions in systemic terms.
As long as we have a society built around consumerism, and growth that makes it very difficult to reduce emissions in a meaningful way.
In my view, capitalist economic system has to be abandoned if we are to become a sustainable civilization going forward.
I completely agree with the first two paragraphs.
I sort of agree with the third paragraph, although, I'd use the term 'improve' rather than 'abandon'.
For example, in theory, a government could develop regulations that protect capitalism from itself. In practice, capitalism tends to cause a 'rule by the rich outcome' that undermines democracy.
Having written that l find it odd that people simply accept working for non-democratic social organisations as normal.
@scientist @zleap I'd argue that the fundamental mechanics of capitalism are fundamentally incompatible with democracy and lead to an economic system that works in the interest of the capital owning minority.
A truly democratic system cannot be based on capitalism because democracy necessitates collective ownership of resources and the means of production.
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@yogthos @scientist @zleap i suppose you just shoot the people who don't want to participate in your collectivism? or good old vernichtung durch arbeit?
@bonifartius @scientist @zleap ah yes, because people are never murdered by capitalist regimes, you are very intelligent
communism or capitalism doesn't kill people.
However, fascism, for example, does (certain groups)
@scientist @yogthos @zleap capitalism can be violent, collectivism has to be.
What's the opposite of "collectivism"?
We all walk around and don't socially interact with one another.
There has to be some level of cooperation. Why not on the level of the basic unit of an economy?
Do you want to be part of a team? for example, in a cooperatively owned businesses, or do you want to be the "boss" that tells everyone what to do?
@scientist @yogthos @zleap
> What's the opposite of "collectivism"?
voluntaryism
And what do you want people to voluteer to do?
For example, a few days ago I volunteered to help restore some peatland in the local area (because it's a good cause)
But, people can volunteer to take part in harmful activities. In fact, in the context of ecological degradation, that's the norm, not the exception.
Do you volunteer to feel angry or sexual attraction? Or is that more of an instinctive response that takes will power to control (or not)
@scientist @yogthos @zleap
> For example, a few days ago I volunteered to help restore some peatland in the local area (because it's a good cause)
yes. that's voluntaryism. you decided freely to do something.
> But, people can volunteer to take part in harmful activities.
if things are so harmful that your rights are injured. you have the right to self defense and to compensation.
> In fact, in the context of ecological degradation, that's the norm, not the exception.
you are _so_ special that you aren't the norm?
> Do you volunteer to feel angry or sexual attraction? Or is that more of an instinctive response that takes will power to control (or not)
is this a serious discussion?
