Wow. I was not aware of the #eugenics beliefs of three so formative figures of #statistics.
Lessons in science should also include a bit about the persons.
via @bartlettje
I half agree. Eugenics was extremely popular and part of many government policies, but it wasn't as if there was total agreement. In the article, the author highlights different scientists who rejected the idea of eugenics.
Galton, Pearson, and Fisher seemed to have been particularly cruel in their support of eugenics.
@bartlettje I wasn't suggesting a relation between statistics and eugenics. I hope it did not come across as such. I think, however, the historical persons should be discussed at least briefly in sciences. Because there is no such thing as "pure science". There are always human motives, good or bad. @slrellison
@cweickhmann @bartlettje No; I didn’t take the post that way. It is about the people, not the toolkit.
It is a cautionary history, though, whichever way we look at it. And we certainly _should_ look at it.
@bartlettje @cweickhmann A fair point indeed.
@slrellison I very much doubt the "unwittingly" quality. The article very clearly states that all three used statistics to justify their eugenics beliefs. I don't think you or anyone else could just "fall for eugenics". @bartlettje
@cweickhmann @bartlettje I think this is the difficulty of judging historical attitudes. I’m sure they knew very well what they were supporting. The problem is that I think they thought it was a good thing. And the ideas seem to have had the implicit, and often active, support of a wide range of influential people.
That’s what I mean by ‘unwitting’: I don’t think they were intending evil by the standards of their time. That is a lesson for today too.
@slrellison
Indeed it is hard to look at this from today's POV without having today's POV (which includes the eugenics excesses of the Nazis). But I still think, eugenics, even in the 19th century, were objectively bad. Elitist and inhumane. And there are many contemporaries who called them out for that.
@bartlettje
@cweickhmann @bartlettje Worth also considering that lessons about people should consider the historical context.
Eugenics is not a policy we’d consider for a second today. But then, it had wide support as a rational policy among intellectuals and in governments. Fisher, Pearson etc were reflections of their society, not new demons.
So a lesson for me is that if such intelligent men could fall unwittingly into such an awful misconception, perhaps we could too.