Israel is going about this all wrong.
@Linux_Is_Best @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs no offense, but is there ever a right way to go about genocide? They’ve been doing a quieter version of this for decades.
They have, while terrorist and fascist groups in Palestine, Iran, Syria, Yemen, etc. have been killing and threatening Israelis since its inception, not just due to WW1, but because they're Jewish people and close to Western ideologies.
The Levant should not have been conquered, but same as with Taiwan there is no justification to just undo a working democratic nation.
We need to recognize the rights of each side, not tolerate their crimes
@ekes @justpeachy @Linux_Is_Best @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs
(1.) The terrorist IDF is killing innocent children in Gaza. Nothing can justify that.
(2.) Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism for the same reason that anti-Nazism is not anti-Germanism.
(3.) Israel is not a "democratic nation," or even a nation at all. By definition, a nation has fixed borders.
@LevZadov @ekes @justpeachy @Linux_Is_Best @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs (1) How should they defend themselves? I'm hearing a lot this kind of thing – describing Gaza as an open-air prison, and so on. But no coherent alternative IDF could be pursuing instead.
It would be great if there was some magical way Israel could end Hamas without any civilian casualties, but I don't know if that is possible. Like in WW2, we killed, what, like a million German civilians? That was awful. We probably could have done better. But certainly not 0, right?
@ech @LevZadov @ekes@ieji.de @justpeachy @Linux_Is_Best @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs
There is no evidence you would accept any solution at all.
Until non Likud support is total on all settlement is ended and reversed to the Oslo accord liens; all Israeli support is support for settlement
@rticks @LevZadov @justpeachy @Linux_Is_Best @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs I just asked for a solution; isn't that evidence?
@ech @rticks @LevZadov @justpeachy @Linux_Is_Best @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs
OP is mourning the loss of friends. Friends who died violent deaths. Is this really the best post/thread to have a discussion about whether those friends were merely causalities of war or victims of genocide?
Seems a little pointlessly cruel when we already have an abundance of cruelty in this world.
@ech @rticks @justpeachy @Linux_Is_Best @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs
Defending genocide and apartheid is not a solution. It's not even asking for a solution. It's prolonging the agony.