A while ago I did a literature search into "do people really need dairy"? A paper says yes, fat-removed milk products add nutrients to the otherwise complete catastrophe that is the average american diet.

so we gotta keep sticking the band-aid on instead of maybe subsidizing some vegetables among all that corn and meat?

@coldwave That seems like a weak counterargument "dairy is nutritious therefore we should have it in your diet" isnt a band aid for a bad diet, so much as a good argument for it to be a part of any diet.

The thing is, dairy provides several nutrients that would be hard (though not impossible) from even a diet with veggies in it, unless you are mindful enough to pick veggies that specifically carry the wanted vitamins and minerals. Regardless if you eat your veggies or not having nutritiously rich variety in any diet is obviously the ideal.

@freemo interestingly only low-fat milk adequately fills the nutritional gap. However the fat that is skimmed off turns into things like cheap pizza cheese, and is presumably eaten separately by the same population. (This isn't an argument either way, just a weird fact about the system)

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@coldwave Thats sorta true in the sense that we obviously shouldnt be eating a shit ton of high fat food all the time.

But the truth is even ifyou look at whole-milk and look at the vitamin D per calorie it is outperforming in nutritional value to the vast majority of vegetables (in fact there is only one vegetable that is on part with the vitamin d per calorie of whole milk).

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