@icedquinn so i read that wrong as "when out own pollution footprint"

on reread I assume you were being sarcastic?

@freemo it says 'your.'
my footprint is not large.

@icedquinn Yes I know, but i read it as as "our" not "your"

I was asking if you were being sarcastic about their (whoever your is ) footprint being small? thats how I take it.

@freemo nah. i was just remarking about watching people post about problems that one isn't really a part of.

@icedquinn ahh ok I get that now... I mean.. to be fair I'd prefer that over the opposite.. like if you actually have a very small footprint and talk about the problema nd encourage others to emulate you, that is more respectable in my eyes than someone driving an SUV to a global warming protest :)

@freemo i shrug at most of this, and am reminded of a Webcomic Name panel.

It shows the blob man with a broom saying "I'm helping!" Then it zooms out and shows an entire field of shit except the small circle the blob cleaned, and a large factory is spitting the shit out on the floor.

"Oh no."

I've seen too, articles that civilians doing these things doesn't contribute much. Returning to reusable glass for instance, pales in comparison to the pollution that industrialists produce in their daily smog clouds.

@icedquinn Ahh thats a slightly different argument than I thought you meant.

It is entierly valid to say that our personal day to day direct contribution to the problem is rather minimal. Absolutely the big problem is industrial and commercial.. for example shipping over seas, and airports are both commercial entities and are a much bigger chunk of the problem than the car you drive or leaving a light on... so yea on that we agree.

I guess my point is two fold

1) someone with a small footprint probably isnt helping sure, but being vocal about it could help drive legal changes that reduce corporate pollution.

2) Generally, unless its a company that has the government as a client, corperations are doing things that result in pollution specifically as a result of our individual choices, they arent disconnected. In simplistic terms, the companies that pollute are getting the money to operate (and thus pollute) from us, as customers, either directly or indirectly. If boats shipping containers is causing major pollution, more so than someone driving an SUV... well those boats are still shipping the crap we ordered from china, so it doesnt allow us to be blameless. We have a symbiotic/parasitic relationship with companies in a way.