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> You know I value these discussions, otherwise I would not participate in them 🙂

I am glad, and I of course feel the same

> My point is just that I have seen enough things going bad when a minimum wage is not mandatory.

You would, but you have to be careful of falling victim to logic where you look at components in isolation and then draw conclusions about the whole.

The truth is if **all** you did was eliminate minimum wage and nothing else then you are right, things would and do go bad. Notice my solution is very careful not to do that, it doesnt just propose minimum wage be done away with but is careful to point out that it must go hand-in-hand with 1) strong welfare to support those who can afford a reasonable living wage and 2) provide free education and training to people along with the support of #1 to help ensure they get out of a welfare situation

Without points #1 adn #2 then simply eliminating welfare would be a disaster, but with points #1 and #2 then we fix the problems with welfare and replace it with something that works.

It is always important to understand the whole and not separate it out into its fundamental parts and fall into a fallacy of composition.

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