@doliu666 I mean people certainly do buy it, people are so polarized to either side they pretty much buy whatever bullshit their side is selling no matter how absurd.. so no arguments there at all.

Its just, this was a private phonecall so it changes things, he isnt trying to sell the conspiracy to the public in this call, he is talking internally. So it makes me think he really did believe his own bullshit whole heartedly, but then again I dunno maybe not.