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@judgedread What do you mean? The account you linked clearly states that it is not donald trump and that it is simply a mirror of his posts... how is that forging? Or are you saying it isnt really mirroring his posts but just posting made up posts?
A grifter like Torba knows how to lie by misdirection. Most people never research anything, never click to the next level. I have seen thousands of posts, not just on Gab, written by people who took the BLUE CHECK MARK on every post of the fake Gab Trump as proof that it was really him.
His account does... so your complaining that people were idiots and assumed it was really him without checking the **front page** of the account first?
I mean it would be perfectly fair to criticize the general group of people who made that mistake without even checking the account, I would agree with you there. Still not sure how you can possibly claim he is "forging" anything though, he isnt, and he rather clearly stated what it is. Other people being too stupid to realize its not him because they didnt bother to check doesnt make it a forgery, just makes most people idiots..
True, but it still explicitly states it is just reposting content from his twitter feed. So while it was less explicit about it being unofficial, it doesnt appear their intention was to mislead anyone, they just werent very explicit in their wording, but most people would still understand from that wording that it was just a mirror.
That said, still not sure what the problem is, the first description was somewhat problematic and the owner of the account went out of their way once someone brought that up to change the wording to make it more clear (which shows they are operating in good faith)... so again, hard to see what the problem is here.
Thats unfortunate. But again the account states in the screenshot you provided:
> posts from @realdonaldtrump feed.
So the account did state (though slightly less explicitly) even in your screenshot that it was a mirror of his twitter feed.
So what I'm hearing is, your Taiwan media either screwed up or just generally doesnt do a good job at fact checking, and stated something they had no evidence to support. Sounds like the problem here is with your media doing a shitty job (at least in this case) and not the account.
Again its important to note that while it did mention it was a mirror of his twitter feed it seems once the account holder realized someone mistook it for a real account (perhaps this was specifically in response to the mistake made by the Twain media) they even went out of their way to add extra text to make it even more clear.
So again, not really sure the problem has anything to do with whoever runs that bot, seems the problem is with people stating things without fact checking it first.
It had the exact words I just quoted on it, and it doesn't appear to have redirected. See attached imaged I highlighted it.
@freemo @muho @judgedread It has a blue checkmark and in posts they don’t see bio and no one reads bios anyway and none of the mongs on gab would even understand what it means if they did. all they see is blue check mark.
Yes I get that, there are lots of idiots out there assuming its really him and arent reading the bio, a lot of those idiots are likely on Gab, some are not, like the Twain media apparently (according to muho's info). I don't disagree with that part. Just saying thats not the bot maintainer's fault, it was clearly stated in their bio, anyone who doesnt bother to take 2 seconds to fact check something and believes bull shit, thats on them and no one else. We use blue check marks all around the fediverse as a running gag, its nothing official, so anyone "fooled" by that hasnt been on the fediverse for more than 30 seconds anyway.
Its just some idiot who set up a mirror bot and reserved Trump's handle and clearly is "offering it up" to him. Looks like he just created the account as encouragement for Trump to take it over and use it to continue tweeting. But there doesnt appear to be an intentional effort to mislead anyone there, just a Trump fanboy and mirror bot, clearly labeled as such.
@freemo @muho @judgedread Well you are wrong on several points.
1) that account was created, maintained and owned by gab, not “some fan boy”
2) gab is a centralized server not some local instance run by an anon. Those are all twitter refugees. they think blue check mark means verified. Torba knows that and knows what he is doing. If a fedi instance claims to to do real verifications then they should be held accountable if faked. If you can’t get that then you just don’t want to for some reason.
3) That story spread for over a day before torba commented, he let it spread on purpose. He probably told people to spread it.
#1 - was unaware of that, thanks for letting me know
#2 - not sure what you mean by that, it is part of the fediverse, last I checked they federate, just because they are a large instance doesnt make them any less of an instance.
#3 - Doesn't seem at all relevant to me... it is not his or anyones responsibility to correct idiots the moment they start idioting. After "over a day" he went out of his way to add **extra** clarifying text to the account that he really didnt need to in the first place, which is fine by me it was corrected.
So conceding the fact that it was made by gab, it doesn't sound the least bit damning even considering your points. The bottom line is **the account was obviously marked as a mirror of the twitter feed, on the main page. It was literally the **only** text in the description, pointing out it was a mirror. So anything else you can say doesnt change the fact that the account was clearly marked as being a mirror, anything else are just people being too stupid to fact check shit, thats on them.
Well I don’t know what to tell you except you are wrong.
Gab does NOT federate and they have not federated since weeks of launching on masto. You are just wrong and uninformed on that point.
attached in original image. I took immediately knowing torba as I do.
If you dont get torba is lying than I have some bitcoin i would give you but I need to get my stuff out of storage and that will cost about 10K if you send me 10K i will definitely send you 100K worth of btc.
I am literally looking at the GAB account we are talking about from my mastodon account right now.. so clearly they federate.
Also your image, just like every other image, clearly labels it as an "archive of twitter" in one way or another... so the screenshot you just send **disproves** your point, doesnt support it, at least not to me.
@freemo @muho @judgedread Anyway, I gotta go. You are morally broken and illogical. The simple fact that dozens of reporters and users believed that it was a legit account proves that torba did not do a good enough job showing this is a fake account. putting a blue mark on account is intentional. so you think it was just torba or gullible ppl at fault and I think it is torba. you are probably a rapist or criminal who often blames victims. you are morally broken.
> The simple fact that dozens of reporters and users believed that it was a legit account proves that torba did not do a good enough job showing this is a fake account.
No one is responsible for other peoples stupidity. There are literally people who believe the earth is flat. It is not the moral responsibility of **anyone** to waste their time setting stupid people straight. He was pretty generous by correcting it after a day anyway, so its a non-point in pretty much every way you can imagine.
My guess is you just hate GAB and are fixated on that... thing is I hate GAB too, the place is a cease pool. I just dont let my personal feelings get in the way of my judgement.
