@Faket

IIRc you used anarchism to refer to libertarianism (power focused on local governments rather than federal governments)... presuming that is what you mean then I tend to agree that it tends to be more resilliant to people who make poor choices as voters... all the smart lucradive people will live in the same region and have the most wealth and advantage, all the people who make poor voting decisions will not be allowed into those communities and exiled to poorer communities of their own making.

So at least it lets people find the group of people that vote like them and live in a community that mirrors their decisions.

@pants

@freemo @Faket i wish there was an emoji just for calling people out on trolling behavior. i'll get to work on one... kidding aside, i used to think that if people are educated they would make the best decisions. Now i just want everyone to be safe and to feel that safety. i think this late-stage capitalist hell we find ourselves in does just the opposite. it makes us scared so we spend more money to feel safe.

@pants

What i said wasnt intended to troll anyone.

When i say educated i dont mean schooling per say, I mean more abstractly that they have the intellectual ability to decide what is best for society, that requires a deep level of understanding and an ability to see past your biases that most people dont have and most dont have the technical skill to know how to run the numbers and see if their biases are helping or hurting either.

I do agree fear is the cornerstone of our current society, but it has nothing to do with capitalism, nor does capitalism have a "late-stage", its the default its been around since time began pretty much.. but the fear is a real issue even if it isnt really capitalism that is causing it.

@Faket

@freemo i dunno... leave those to starve that cannot get food themselves? that's either trolling or a lack of empathy that could be pathological. no one asked to be on this planet. we're all here by chance, so the least we can do is make it tolerable for the most people @Faket

@freemo apologies, i didn't mean to take your point in bad faith. the logical conclusion of your libertarianism seemed to me to be that those 'poorer communities' would be a spectrum, each deserving of their own progressively worse hell because they are not 'educated' enough to help themselves get out of it.
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@pants

I never said I supported libertarianism in that sense. I did point out it solves the problem of people who vote for destructive policies because those communities fail and are isolated from the communities of people who vote for the more effective policies. So it is a solution for that problem. But it doesnt mean I support it as the ultimate solution or a system of government we should use. There are other problems (like the one you just pointed out of the suffering poor who created their own hell but are in hell all the same) that it doesnt really address very well.

As I said early on i dont support any extreme. I am libertarian leaning (in that i think governments should be a bit closer to the structure of power being focused more on the local level than federal), but i also believe in some level of federal intervention to make it all work as well.

@Faket

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