@TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social forcing people to take a drug to participate in society is kinda worse than hitler in a way

@freemo do not cry us a river.
You have the option of not getting vaccinated. All good with that.

Pandemic requires everybody is vaccinated in planes, restaurants, etc. It is common sense.

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@pthenq1

We never needed "passports" like this before and its just fine.. your argument is so stupid, anyone who wants to be protected can and will just take the vaccine

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@pthenq1

measles, tuburculosis, smallpox.. none of these required registrations or mandatory vaccination and guess what, they are damn near nonexistant in the country today... so tell me again why it is needed? Clearly the evidence in every single disease we vaccinated to date shows it is not.

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@freemo they do not mutate like this one. Besides, population used to see the effect of those diseases so they were more willing to be vaccinated.

Today's COVID19 fight is a political stance (it is crazy and stupid, but it is what it is).

So times and virus are not comparable.

Do the math. Build a model if you do not like current models. Variants will be predominant and we need all of them GONE with this version of the vaccine. We do not need a mutation resistant to current version of vaccines...

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@pthenq1 @freemo @TruthAndFreedom you are just a bootlicker. if you want real solutions then mandatory workouts would be more effective than vaccines, masks, and lockdowns combined.

@ew it could be but they are not happening...
Besides, the virus jumped to other animals too. So it is buffered. It will return if we do not get some vaccine.
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@pthenq1

By your logic getting a vaccine wont help then, it will just mutate in a cow and then jump back to us..

Again it doesnt work that way... jumping species is **not** an indication of mutations that can circumvent vaccinations.

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@freemo it could but if less people (and cows) are infected, then there are less chances of mutations that turn the vaccine ineffective.

That is why everybody in the world must get the vaccine ASAP.

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@pthenq1

Actually thats not true either, in fact the other way around to some degree. Its the same reason why if you antibiotics cause antibiotic resistant bacteria.. If you have vaccines they can give rise to vaccine resistant varients. Not that im saying COVID is likely to develop one, it isnt, but the act of vaccinating can cause the problem more so than not vaccinating at all, that is, if the virus is likely to mutate in that way at all.

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@freemo

I believe the virus will not mutate that much. But it is what I believe. We do not know.

I believe current vaccines will be enough.

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