@mystik

I already pointed out I was mistaken.. you can turn off the snarkyness now.

@TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social @pthenq1

@mystik you were never in the south, weren't?

I mean, the real south, no the one with Sherman's neckties :awesome:

@TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew

@mystik

It make sense. Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are new technology.

I would say that if someone want to get vaccinated and are still afraid, try with the Johnson & Johnson or AstraZeneca (false alarm at trombosis) vaccines.

Those vaccines are classic vaccines. Old fashion vaccines for COVID19.

In fact Johnson & Johnson vaccine have fantastic metrics.

@TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew

@mystik

For old people the best ones are AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson. The last one is authorized and available.

100% dosis will not be due until 2023 minimum because studies are 3 years long (as fast, they could last longer).
@TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew

@pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew You are trying to kill more people, aren't you?

Karma is a bitch, you know?

@mystik

On the contrary. My parents are already vaccinated. They are 90+ yo. They got the first dosis. They are OK.

At the same time, if someone refuse the vaccine... all good. It is voluntary.

@TruthAndFreedom @freemo @ew

@pthenq1

Most people who get the vaccine will be fine. If there are medical issues we wont see it for many months down the line

@mystik @TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social @ew

@freemo @pthenq1 @TruthAndFreedom @ew This is an idiotic comment.
Risking permanent paralysis over a fucking flu.

@mystik

I have seen no good evidence to suggest the vaccine causes paralysis in the short term. Any short term health concerns from the vaccine of any significant concern are very unlikely or nonexistant.

The risks are simply long-term unknowns, not short term risks, those are mostly accounted for.

@TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social @pthenq1 @ew

@freemo

yes @ vaccine risks.

Same with the virus. We are bias. We associate COVID with effects similar to flu because both attack breathing system.

But we do not know the long effects of covid. If any.

@mystik @TruthAndFreedom @ew

@pthenq1

COVID is about 10x worse than the flu.. not the end of the world, but bad enough to take seriously.

@mystik @TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social @ew

@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @freemo @mystik @pthenq1 i've never seen someone seriously reply to that article bet he'll avoid it

@ew

Its pretty easy to respond to really. Neither I nor most data scientists rely on CDC data at all. It is one tiny blip across countless data sets and only when they all agree do we draw conclusions from it.

@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social @mystik @pthenq1

@ew

sorry to disappoint your psychic abilities but I sure did. In fact its a rather old article and isnt even the first time I came across it

@cowanon @TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social @mystik @pthenq1

@freemo @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom @mystik @pthenq1 Even that 500 figure for the U.S. could be too high, according to analyses in authoritative journals such as the American Journal of Public Health and the British Medical Journal. Only about 15-20 per cent of people who come down with flu-like symptoms have the influenza virus -- the other 80-85 per cent actually caught rhinovirus or other germs that are indistinguishable from the true flu without laboratory tests, which are rarely done. In 2001, a year in which death certificates listed 257 Americans as having died of flu, only 18 were positively identified as true flus. The other 239 were simply assumed to be flus and most likely had few true flus among them.

"U.S. data on influenza deaths are a mess," states a 2005 article in the British Medical Journal entitled "Are U.S. flu death figures more PR than science?" This article takes issue with the 36,000 flu-death figure commonly claimed, and with describing "influenza/pneumonia" as the seventh leading cause of death in the U.S.

"But why are flu and pneumonia bundled together?" the article asks. "Is the relationship so strong or unique to warrant characterizing them as a single cause of death?"

The article's answer is no. Most pneumonia deaths are unrelated to influenza. For example, "stomach acid suppressing drugs are associated with a higher risk of community-acquired pneumonia, but such drugs and pneumonia are not compiled as a single statistic," explained Dr. David Rosenthal, director of Harvard University Health Services. "People don't necessarily die, per se, of the [flu] virus -- the viraemia. What they die of is a secondary pneumonia."
@ew @freemo @TruthAndFreedom @cowanon @pthenq1

Forget about this guy, he just stated that partial numbers don't affect total numbers.
We're dealing with dishonest retards here, he won't read or understand anything.

This is the ultimate black pill, bro. We're not gonna win, because this is a dishonest retarded world.
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@mystik

Nice try but I said nothing of the sort, try learning to read and you wont look like an idiot next time.

@ew @cowanon @TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social @pthenq1

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