I'm being told on Twitter that vaccines are safe, they are very angry with me, not joking:
https://twitter.com/MaggieEThornton/status/1380652509405003776

@Coyote you’re doing good work🤣 I’d join you but I’m permanently suspended from Twitter. Every time I open the app there is this big banner that says “Welcome Back” but I can’t tweet and they zero’d out my followers and followed accounts.

@madmike

It's just confronting fools with their own stupidity. When both had "PhD" next to their names, and can't support a single scientific claim, it mostly says our educational system is garbage. But we all knew that... 😂

@Coyote

Probably would help if next time you dont lead in with that hydrochloride stupidity. Yea there are legitimate concerns with the vaccines as they were rushed past the usual safety checks. But your other comments destroyed your credibility.

@madmike

@freemo @Coyote HCQ works and is safe and many many deaths would have been prevented if it were more widely used. There have been epidemiologists and virologists saying as much. They’ve been kicked off of Twitter and YouTube.

@madmike @freemo @Coyote Yes you are right #hcqworks don't listen to scummo he is corrupt academic morally defunct, with god complex, works for government pathological liar as caught many times, just a human garbage that will pay at the end of scamdemic. Covid19 doesn't exist. Virus doesn't exist.
And if scummo says otherwise he can collect free money here samueleckert.net/isolat-truth- he won't because he is simply a liar.

thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/f

2020news.de/wp-content/uploads

swprs.org/why-covid-19-is-a-st

@akeno

Scummo could have all the evidence in the world and not be able to collect. Anyone who pulls the conspiracy theory bullshit that covid doesnt exist and hasnt been proven to exist doesnt know the first thing about the science of any of it.

@madmike @Coyote

@freemo @akeno @madmike

I know it exists, I've had it, still not breathing right. Got it last March, wish I would have got it now, when they know a bit more.

What's real though is, it's a rather small blip, flu sized so far, and I suspect more life-long damage than a typical flu. But still, it's no where near the scale they say it is, and until I see this data from our own country, I'm going to believe this scale is probably a reasonable representation:
https://twitter.com/VoidSurf1/status/1320269542174720000

@akeno

Complete uneducated nonsense... for starters "isolated" doesnt mean jack shit because if you were to truely isolate the virus, as in all you have the virus and no plasma, or cell organels or anythjing else, the virus would fall apart into dust.

What we can do, and have done, is prove the virus is there, prove its exact genetic sequence, and even literally seen it under a microscope. We have also been able to prove the dna and the protein are what we were looking at by chromotographic and other techniques..

For all practical purposes it has been isolated, it just so happens there are a bunch of people out there who dont know the first clue about chemistry or biology who simply cant understand that and claim otherwise.

@Coyote @madmike

@akeno

By the way notice the author of the paper you linked, Robert O Young who declares himself a doctor and PhD... he isnt a doctor, he isnt a PhD, he literally dropped out of the only accredited university he went to, he only got in on a tennis scholarship, and to add insult to injury is not only convicted of fraud but has espoused a ton of other completely idiotic Ideas.

Here is the wikipedia article on him along with a quote:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_O

"Young's website states he attended the University of Utah on a tennis scholarship and studied biology and business in the early 1970s. He did not graduate.[9] He then performed missionary work for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for two years in London. Young, who is not a medical doctor, has received doctorates for naturopathy and nutrition from Clayton College of Natural Health (formerly American College of Holistic Nutrition), a defunct correspondence school which was not accredited by any agency recognized by the U.S. Department of Education.[10][11][1] The prosecution at his 2016 trial said his doctorate was purchased from a "diploma mill",[12] and it was pointed out that he had gone from a bachelor's to a doctor's degree in eight months.[9]"

@Coyote @madmike

@freemo @Coyote @madmike You are not a Dr. you are a fraud.
When you can't ad lapidem you ad hominem.

Rap sheet of your scientologists who claim covid19 is real pandemic and make trillions on it is longer than toilet paper but you don't mind that. because rich can buy judges to keep their eugenic business going.

That's not on your corruptpedia.

prepareforchange.net/2021/01/2

thefreethoughtproject.com/comp

@akeno

LOLOLOLOL

You: "Here listen to this guy who got a PhD in 8 months from a guy in a trench coat in a back ally talk about how viruses arent real".

Me: "That dude isnt a Phd"

You: "Barghblahdf youa re a fraud, a Scientologist, you dont know what your talking about. How dare you insult a real doctor who knew what he was talking about"...

LOL ok there buddy. you lost the high ground the second you tried to sell a college drop out who only got in on a scholarship playing tennis as a reliable source in the first place. Sorry but your opinion of me has 0 value.

@Coyote @madmike

@freemo @akeno @madmike

BTW, want to talk about expensive pieces of paper that are both highly (libral arts) over valued, and highly (hard science) under valued... With insane finance schemes supporting it, government funded paywall protected "results" they cherry pick for media coverage, and total exploitation of reasonable thinking and rational intellectual pursuits being corrupted to the core, for ... paper? That is symbolized with Letters, PhD, JD, MD, DO, DDS, And the ever so lovely "honorary" PhD media darlings of zero intellectual worth to society as a whole and ...

I fear scam crypto a lot less than the scam shit they have been doing with the educational system in this country. Put logic, and basic math back in to all the time slots they fill with SJW shit starting young, let them figure out politics later.

Non Sequiter! Non Sequiter! Fuck everyone!

@10grans makeitrain 0.0001

@Coyote

I mean, science and peer review is way more reliable than just winging it.. but like everything it wont be perfect and you absolutely need to apply judgement and not just take everyting blindly... Its important to understand how strongly a papers conclusion is shown, what biases the author has, and how many other studies done in different ways show similar results. From that you form a picture.

The problem is sometimes with just a fraudulent paper but thats the exception far more than it is the rule. More often its simply that a paper shows weak but supporting evidence for something, doesnt make any false claims and even clearly points out how weak the evidence is, but because the media doesnt know the first thing about reading or understanding science, and neither does the general public, you get some bullshit interpretation of the paper sounding like settled science on an issue that is still very much still being researched.

@10grans @akeno @madmike

@freemo @10grans @akeno @madmike

Let us all see ALL of the bullshit behind the paywalls.

We will teach each other how to sort out what's real, together, I believe in that, that is my dream.

#coyotequotes
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@Coyote

If you ever want to see a paper that is behind a paywall and you dont wish to get a subscription just email the author. 98% of the time they will happily send you a free copy of the paper.

@10grans @akeno @madmike

@freemo @10grans @akeno @madmike

Yes, very true, I've done that myself for people when I have had requests, as do most I know, and a drawer full of hard copy reprints...

However, it does not facilitate any sort of bulk research required to reach a reasoned conclusion on an issue in a reasonable amount of time, IMHO.
@Coyote
Yeah pretty much any paper you want can get for free from sci-hub the address changes every so often due to censorship but can find current one on duckduckgo.com by searching for sci-hub

Currently it is https://sci-hub.st/
@freemo @10grans @akeno @madmike
@Andrii @10grans @akeno @freemo @madmike

I'm more of a shadow, I like to look at the research that's not so popular, which doesn't get to sci-hub....

(queue Lamont Cranston laugh)
@Coyote
Well personally I would recommend reading books rather than articles for a more broad overview can get from zlibrary currently at b-OK.cc

I listen to books at 450wpm+ using text to speech on my phone. So can listen while doing the dishes or gardening, I.e. instead of music.
@10grans @akeno @freemo @madmike
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@Andrii

Books are for teaching you what we know, articles are for showing why we know it.

@10grans @madmike @akeno @Coyote

@freemo @Andrii @10grans @madmike @akeno

"Books are for teaching you what we know, articles are for showing why we know it."

Counterpoint. Letters to a Prince.
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