@dickmasterson

Ok, well, to be fair...

"Pentagon scientists have invented a microchip that once inserted under the skin will detect if the patient develops Covid-19."

But, yea, it's funny.
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@freemo

Ignoring the "microchip everyone" red herring (let's just call it that right now), what do you think about:

"Col Hepburn also told the show that his team had invented a filter that if placed on a dialysis machine would remove the virus from blood.

He said that the four-day treatment had been given to 'Patient 16', the spouse of a military member, who was in organ failure and septic shock.

'You pass it through, and it takes the virus out, and puts the blood back in,' said Col Hepburn.

And he said that within days of the treatment the patient had made a full recovery."

Cure covid by Dialysis?

https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-unveils-microchip-senses-covid-231239955.html
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@Coyote

No dialysis filter will be able to remove a virus without also removing everything else from the blood.. By that I mean a filter which is a mechanical sieving device (the usual meaning of a filter).

Now it is possible to run blood through some device that may selectively kill the virus, but this seems unplasable. Such a device would have to have receptors that mimic cell receptors that the COVID vidus bind to but somehow be selective to only COVID. Basically mimicking white blood cells. Which is a bit implausible in its own right.

But the real catch is, even if he had this magical device somehow that left the blood untouched and 100% removed any virus from it, this wouldnt remotely help with covid (though it would be a huge breakthrough for a few other viruses potentially)...

The reason being is that covid doesn't spread through the blood. It is present there as some of the virus unintentionally gets into the blood, but its not the route of spreading. COVID is a respiratory virus and like all respiratory viruses it spreads in a way that is local targeting specifically the lungs. So it tends to spread either through its neighboring cells directly or by shedding into the mucous of the lungs and being transported to other areas of the lungs through coughing.

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@freemo @dickmasterson

"No dialysis filter will be able to remove a virus without also removing everything else from the blood.."

False. If you can create anything that has an affinity to the virus and immobilize it on a substrate, it will filter out anything it has affinity for. Filtration systems don't only work based on particle size.

@Coyote

You just going to quote me and just ignore the sentance right after the quote:

"By that I mean a filter which is a mechanical sieving device"

I was specifically addressing particle size filters. I go on to explain the other case you just describe in the rest of the response.

@dickmasterson

@freemo @dickmasterson So, the US Navy and Pentagon are fully of shit, in your view. You think the news twisted the story, or the story itself is just BS (then... Hmm..)?

@Coyote

I missed the link in your original post, after reading it and then doing some research, I stand corrected. It does appear to work and be real. However it appears that there is fairly low supply (so cant treat very many people), and its a bit experimental/risky so only used for very severe patients.. but it is more or less as reported as far as I can tell.

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@freemo @dickmasterson

So... "even if he had this magical device somehow that left the blood untouched and 100% removed any virus from it, this wouldnt remotely help with covid"

It is dialysis, it's just doing blood? Serious question, I've not seen anything more than the sentence or two about the 60 min story. (and, EVERYONE else seems focused on the "they are going to microchip all of us" part, which, SMH, whatever).

@Coyote

It would seem based on the story that my assertion was incorrect. Removing it from the blood does cure covid... It goes against medical teaching on the respiratory viruses as I know it and was taught, but the story seems valid.

With that said I couldn't find any real studies on it, just that the military did make this claim and that the news seems to have reported it without embellishment. Its possible the military is lying though, but I have no evidence of that.

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