@freemo Clearly what you see in the sky and what they are telling you it is are not the same thing. Don't be a dumb clown, you are being hoaxed.

@nosat regardless it is easy to prove that what is in the sky is in space and orbiting and moving at the speeds claimed, you can literally measuring it moving at that speed.. so every aspect of your fantasy is so easily debunked as to be a joke.

@freemo No the thing you see moving across the sky is a bright light, the thing you see in your telescope is an object transiting the moon or sun. Not the same object. You were told it is so you believe.

@nosat What the fuck are you talking about, thius is what I see when I look in my telescope at the ISS, quite clearly a man made object. And as I said when i point my directional antenna at this object (so I am assured to be contacting it and not something on earth) I have talked to the astronauts.

Again it is moving at the speed described and clearly seen to be orbiting. I am not limited to seeing it as just a light, you can clearly see the features of itin a good telescope.

@freemo Looks like a hologram... why are they on wires. If they are lying about being in space the whole thing must be questioned.

@nosat HAHAHA what a fucking idiot, a hologram.. right, holograms can have radio transmitters on them now. So they can put objects into orbit that emit holograms and have radio transmitters on them but putting people into orbit, not possible.. lol you sound like a fucking fool.

@freemo Your dumb ridicule does not work anymore, your stupid space religion is being exposed. Grow up.

@nosat hahaha ok mister "we put transmitters in obit that emit holograms but we cant put humans in orbit because reasons" lolol

@freemo That can be projected from earth. Military tech is 50 years ahead of what we know about. There is no such thing as orbit that is why they are not orbiting. Rocket go up and rocket arcs over and comes back down. The rest is animations and military members on wires fooling children.

@nosat That still doesnt explain how my direction antenna is communicating with a transmitter in space, in orbit, and moving at the speed described.

Also lol "they are super advanced and military can do magical things physics says is impossible... oh but they cant put something into orbit, lol. fucking nut job.

@freemo You have it backwards you moron, holograms are real tech that exists today. Magical floating around is not scientifically valid.

Your antenna is communicating with a transmitter on a tower on earth or the signal is being bounced off of troposphere.

@nosat Holograms do not exist as just random floating images, so no in the sense that you are describing they dont exist. Holograms are objectects that appear on specially constructed surfaces. Meaning if it were a hologram it would still mean some object is flying in orbit around earth as holograms are physical objects.

The antenna cant talk to a tower on earth, it is directional and not pointed at earth its pointed at space moron. And bouncing off the ionosphere doesnt happen at the frequencies used to talk to the ISS, that happens at much lower frequencies. Besides if that were the case other ham radio operators would hear my signal when it bounces like they do with the lower frequencies, and they dont.

I can't beleive I actually need to explain to you this, like your so fucking stupid you dont even know why the earth is **obviously** not flat.

@freemo "It's pointed at muh space!"

So called satellites are only possible when they are attached to balloons, as any scientific mind can imagine.

There is no magical floating around, it is a cult religion you have been fed.

This is real
https://tfrlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/650_1519121400.jpg

This is a cartoon
https://wonderfulengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/balloon-satellite-2-1024x538.jpeg

@nosat God your an idiot on so many levels. balloons dont cross from horizon to horizon in a minute or two.. literally none of the shit you've said makes any sense, its just what an idiot trying to explain shit you dont undersand.

@freemo Fool, I am saying they have transmitters in the sky on balloons that is why your stupid antenna works. Crap you see floating around could be a hologram. There is no people floating around in a box flying at 17,000mph this is total idiocy.

@freemo @nosat

""Holograms do not exist as just random floating images, so no in the sense that you are describing they dont exist. Holograms are objectects that appear on specially constructed surfaces..""

A completely false statement. The new tech allows the holograms to be projected anywhere as free standing objects and appear to be real objects. You are completely CLUELESS!

@YodaJediMaster

proof? How?

@nosat

@freemo @nosat

I usually do not enter into discussions with people as it is a waste of time. I came across these new technologies years ago, watched videos of them creating entire jungles, animals, anything they want out of nothing. They can literally create any reality, any type of space, object around you and you will believe you are inside it, it looks so real. They even created a replica of the space shuttle and made it appear sitting on the ground. No one can tell the difference between the real one and a fake hologram. That is how advanced the tech is....think Project Blue-Beam, DARPA, black-budget projects etc...

@YodaJediMaster @nosat

I usually do not enter into discussions with people as it is a waste of time.

No no follow that line of thinking, dont try to discuss it with me. Its a level of stupidity I can't really argue with, it goes too deep.

@freemo @nosat

I see. So you try to get people engaged into stupid conversations with you by personally attacking them, rather then using reason and logic. Shows how you are just some paid faggot disinfo agent. Get lost retard.

@freemo @YodaJediMaster

Instead of arguing about holograms how about you pull up the video of the ISS being constructed, oh wait there is none because it is a fraud.

You show these fools some proof that shatters their belief system and they cling to "but I can see it". Idiot you are being lied to about what you are seeing.

@nosat @freemo

The image he posted of supposedly being the ISS could be a satellite, a hologram, anything....there is no proof it is there....no proof at what altitude it is orbiting if it is there at all....

We even know now that the Hubble telescope does not exist....they use a Boeing Airplane to get the images.... all so stupid... 😆

@YodaJediMaster @freemo Yup I saw this as well, did not mention it because I did not feel like searching around for it. What this moron doe snot realize is that the tech we have is ancient compared to what secret agencies have.

@freemo @nosat

Freaking small satellites can have radio transmitters on them...and they all orbit in low earth orbit. You are a hoaxer or are being hoaxed.

NoSat, this guy is a shill, a paid disinfo agent.

@freemo @nosat

There is no way you have talked to any astronauts as they do not just speak with anyone. Just because you see something with a telescope does not prove it is in space. What you see is just something in low earth orbit and there is no way to prove it is a space station.

@YodaJediMaster

I have both spoke with astronauts on the ISS and so ave many others. They keep their radio open on the ISS much of the time and spend time out of each day talking to anyone who can track them with am antenna. Many hams have spken to them many times. They even sometimes tell people when they will be listening on radio.

@nosat

@freemo @nosat

That is all part of the psyop as NASA is all fake. So it is just part of the PR campaign. You are not chatting with a rookie here. I am the Master Jedi.

@freemo @nosat

If you measure the speed of something moving in low earth orbit, it will be very different from a speed of the same object if it were in high earth orbit.Your measurements will never be accurate unless you knew the true altitude of the object, which you do not.

@freemo @nosat

Just because you talk to it with a directional antenna does not prove it is high up in space. And if you see it with a telescope you have no way also to know how high up it is. It is orbiting the earth in low earth orbit only. No one has been able to get up above low earth orbit.