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@se7en is this ... is this real and not satire? Jebus it's all so cringe you can't even tell any more.

If this thing was so safe and so effective against something soo deadly ... then why would anyone need to be persuaded into taking it?

@djsumdog

Probably because some people are conspiracy theorists, so while it is safe they might be under the false impression it isnt...

That said, while all the data shows its safer to take the vaccine than not, I do think its prudent to wait just to make sure. So I wouldnt say someone is a conspiracy theorist if they are just a little cautious either.

@se7en

@freemo @se7en So the 5,000 deaths in VARES, the miscarriages, the women reporting issues with periods, the lack of animal reproductive studies, these three women with permanent neurological issues (https://rumble.com/vgbhxl-they-dont-want-to-see-people-like-us.html), the fact that Weinstine got censored on YouTube after having one of the inventors of mRNA technology challenge both the efficacy and safety of these medications .... none of that bothers you.

For a disease with a 99.98% survival rate if you're under 65.

Vioxx was safe right? DDT was safe right? Thalidomide was safe right?

This is literally the least tested drug ever released in the modern era of medical regulation and Ivromectin has already proven to be able to effectively treat COVID without any issues and is much much safer.

@djsumdog

VAREs does not report illness caused by the vaccine. It simply reports all illnesses anyone happened to have and also having been vaccinated.

If you give hundreds of millions of people a vaccine a great many of those will happen to get ill at the same time regardless of the vaccine.

So yea, by simply listing a whole bunch of people people who happened to coincidentally get ill and take the vaccine that tells you absolutely nothing about the safety of the vaccine. For that you'd have to do actual math and have an understanding of statistical analysis, which, once you do that shows its relatively safe.

@se7en

@freemo @se7en VARES is not a self reporting database. You have to be a doctor to report to it, and most doctors do not want to report to it. They're afraid to. There is a stigma.

Let's be clear, there have been more deaths reported to VARES about this vaccine THAN ALL OTHER VACCINES COMBINED! ...and it's likely being under reported.

Anecdotal: my next door neighbor's grandmother was perfectly healthy. She died 2 days after her vaccine shot.

@freemo @se7en

So yea, by simply listing a whole bunch of people people who happened to coincidentally get ill and take the vaccine that tells you absolutely nothing about the safety of the vaccine

Also, you agree by this statement that the 450,000 dead from COVID in the US in 2020 was also likely an over count as they included anyone who tested positive of CoV2 who died, include people with gunshot wounds, car accidents, and fucking George Floyd as COIVD deaths.

At least 10k died from Cummo cramming old people together. At least 10k died from Whitmer cramming old people together. Between 20k~80k died from the Flu in 2018, and zero died from Flu in 2020, so we’re already at 100k that are probably not COVID deaths. So this would bump up that 99.98% survival rate even more.

So tell me why again we should all take this barely tested, experimental, emergency use medication for a disease that’s less deadly than both heart disease and cancer (also a lot of people died from heart disease because they couldn’t get treatment while all the hospitals were closed)

@djsumdog

Two lists are maintained for COVID (well many are but two of relevance). One is of everyone who has died who happened to have covid. This is a up-to-the-day set of numbers. The other, and done seperately, is the list of people who are explicitly diagnosed as the cause of death being from covid. This data is delayed by a month or two.

Both have been maintained as accurately as to be expected. But yes cause of death isnt perfect, thats why statisticians adjust these numbers via case studies and sampling to make them more accurate, the exact same way they do with VARES.

@se7en