@ringo No no you dont need any sort of machine, in fact that would not be good science... you say you can feel the stream, so you are the sensor..

Take 20 similarly shaped devices but empty inside, and add one decide that has the" stream" you described... blindfold yourself or put a cover over it. You should be able to pick out the one that is real every single time. Now you have just proven to people its real. Others can and should be able to make a device just like yours and replicate it as well.

Thing is, you will probably find you cant and the experiment will prove its not real.

@freemo oh! interesting. well- about that- i do have psi abilities, but i dont often talk about that. so i may need to employ a regular person for the testing. also, 20 of these is a half gallon of resin, and thats going to cost about 70 bucks. :p but now i understand what you mean, thank you for clarifying that.

also, ones ability to discern aetheric energy isn’t complicit on its existence or non existence. it’s been proven to exist by a great many people before, and

@freemo me doing that would only be a proof for the latest batch of people. i’ve read thousands of pages on the subject already, and am thoroughly convinced. i’ve spoken with people who have installed joe cells on their cars (heard of these?) and ran the vehicle on aetherically charged water…

anywho :) the thing i value a lot is having a low profile, i don’t need to be the next stan meyer. those types get killed off pretty fast.

@ringo There have been quite a few double-blind studies done on orgonite of the type I described or similar.. all wound up showing organite was a hoax. So unless there is some evidence I think its a safe bet you are just fooling yourself on this one.

But again as a scientist I do always welcome you and others to prove me wrong.

@freemo well, the oweness is on you in this case as a non-believer.

i couldn’t find any studies but did just look, and perhaps make some orgonite yourself and see how it seems to you :)

this is a hands on world, not everything is theory driven.

otherwise, please don’t take the above as being salty, for i am not. :)

i do hope you are having a most pleasant afternoon, as well.

@ringo Bot really.. Ihad no opinion, i was neither a non-believer or a believer. I looked it up and found there were many double-blind studies done similar to what i described, they all proved that organite was a hoax.

So the onus was on me, I did the proper research, and found out that the body of evidence proved it a hoax... Now if someone wishes to prove it is real, considering there is so much evidence to the contrary, then the onus is now on that person to prove it.

@ringo oh and yea, no worries, i didnt take it as salty. Nor do I mean it as such, we are good.

@freemo thank you for being polite. there are too many keyboard warriors out there. i had to block someone i assume is a friend of yours, maybe he’s not, but his name is clay. he was probably having a rough day, but i blocked him because he said he wanted me to. 😆

@ringo I dont think I know anyone named clay. What makes you think he is my friend?

As long as you are respectful I will treat you with respect. But I am rather blunt and straight forward with my opinions as well. Politeness doesnt mean you cant tell someone you think they are wrong.

@freemo oh, maybe my toot got sent to the federated stream then. i am still learning how toots get promoted. he popped up out of nowhere at the same time, and i always assumed if someone on your list was replying, then it showed toots to people of the replyee in their local stream.

oh absolutely… i fully agree with your second paragraph of sentiments. all of them. :) it’s nice to see. so thanks.

@ringo Sure, its been a while since I read about the subject. I'll see if i can find you the links when i have time.

@freemo thanks.

@freemo you know how gamey the algorithms are even with duckduckgo, i could not find a single one, so if you did, link me because that would be interesting to see. thanks :)