@nanook @freemo @icedquinn @Pat @sergeantcat vaers is literally supposed to be the thing that you report the absolute number of real world adverse reactions into

@meowski

No its not, not even close. VARES is where you report any incident that has the **possibility** of being an adverse reaction.. It is not encouraged nor required that such incidents be verified as having a causal relationship. That is figured out after using the techniques I described already.

@icedquinn @sergeantcat @nanook @Pat

@freemo @icedquinn @sergeantcat @nanook @Pat quite the opposite, vaers is (in practice) where they only report adverse events that are so undeniably caused by vaccines that even the most hardened pharma shills can't prevent it from being reported, because the families kept the pressure on and wouldn't give up when the entire hospital said "sorry honey that couldn't possibly be caused by the vaccine"
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@meowski

Patently false, in fact the public policy explicitly states this as false. They are required to report certain types of incidents even if they know it isnt caused by the vaccines (because that is needed for the data to be reliable)..

@icedquinn @sergeantcat @Pat @nanook

@freemo @icedquinn @sergeantcat @Pat @nanook well, i agree with the conclusion of the harvard lazarus report that less than 1% of events get reported to VAERS. this aligns with my own experience and observation.

but you keep thinking the vaers has all sorts of unrelated events

@meowski

The law requires VARES reporting to a whole host of situations even when it is known that there is no cause effect.. So yes, it is well established VARES contains tons of reports not related causally to the vaccine.

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@meowski

No, when doctors are required by law to report many events even when it is known that it was unrelated to the vaccine it is pretty extreme to say "few"... these laws have pretty wide swaths too.

In fact the vast majority of types of incidents in VARES would have been required by law to be reported by a doctor even if the doctor knew it wasnt caused by the vaccine...

It shows you havent worked with VARES data in the past, it doesnt work like you think it does.

@icedquinn @sergeantcat @Pat @nanook

@meowski

LOL No they dont.. most doctors follow the law and report on VARES anything even remotely notable.

Also the law that requires them report to VARES even when there is no causality is **unique** to the COVID vaccine as such laws were instituted as part of the national emergency. As such it would ina nd of itself explain why the reporting increased.

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