@MandyJane Basically a user refused to untag him in a post then he threatened to sue us for violating CAN-SPAM laws.

@mk @MandyJane @alex He got upset I didn’t call you a TERF and it went downhill from there I guess

Convo was largely civil tho, it wasn’t like it turned into a hellthread. He just doesn’t seem to like y’all very much

@realcaseyrollins @mk @MandyJane @alex

What does Feelmo think the "RF" in "TERF" stands for, pray tell?
@MandyJane @dubh @alex @mk Nah it shouldn't impact too much, although some of the information I might use for a "controversy" section of the #Spinster article when talking about the alleged spamming of #QOTO. But I haven't gotten around to editing that article fully yet, I have a whole list of pages I need to create first
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Translation "All the shit we did wrong isnt interesting, focus on all the ways we have been wronged instead, way more interesting"....

I dunno, some people may be blocking you purely for your views, but clearly considering past behaviors at least some of those blocks arent for your views but as a consequence of legitimate server-wide harassment. Just sweeping that under the rug plays more to your self-interest than interest.

@dubh @realcaseyrollins @alex @mk

@MandyJane

It means that the server, as a whole openly encouraged other users ont he server to engage in the harassment and used the server to actively circumvent personal bans. It was not with "a couple women", it was a large portion of the server over several days engaging in harassment and when blocked at the account level encouraging eachother to spin up new accounts to circumvent it and continue the harassment.

Moreover this behavior was explicitly reviewed and said to be acceptable by the moderators on the server.

So yea, not at all how you describe.

As for me being angry, not really, the incident is over.. What I do dislike is seeing alex over the course of years continually bring it up and lie about what happened, explicitly lie, knowing he was lying. Which also prompts me to defend the situation when the chance arises.

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@MandyJane @freemo @alex @dubh @mk

I think a spat that happened a couple years ago isn’t very interesting.

I disagree with this, it’s still interesting, if no longer relevant (who actually cares about this still!)

The real controversy is in our views, and in our being blocked by so much of the fediverse because of them. Plus the apps that block us.

Agreed, and that plans on being my focus, in part because it will be way easier to write 😂

You keep saying “server wide harassment” but I don’t know wtf that means!

It means that the server, as a whole openly encouraged other users ont he server to engage in the harassment

Hmm well there is a difference between the server encouraging the actions of the users, and the server not acting upon the actions of the users.

@realcaseyrollins

"Hmm well there is a difference between the server encouraging the actions of the users, and the server not acting upon the actions of the users."

Thats fair, as far as I know the moderators at the server did not actively encourage the harassment. They did,however, see the harassment and explicit ban evasion and deem that it was not against their server rules and thus "sanctioned" it.

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@MandyJane

Casey, being a friend of mind, we were discussing spinster and I brought it up in the discussion with my friend, sure. I never claimed I have never brought it up.

That said, when Casey gets around to writing the article and I help him collect some links and screen shots I would be happy to tag you into it. Your input is of course most welcome as long as you remain respectful as you have been so far. I certainly have no issue with counter arguments. As for the spinning up of accounts, that was literally the straw that broke the camels back and resulted in me needing to escalate the issue from an personal/account level response to a server-wide response. Ban evasion is pretty much the only thing that will get us to silence a server.

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