@bluejay While generally I agree with you the military does not, and should not, have their free will. They forfeit that when they sign up. Its why they can put you in jail just for quiting the military (AWOL) without their permission.

You can have a fighting force entering a foreign country and being able to be wiped out simply from its native diseases. This is doubly true when you consider the close-nit nature of the military, disease would spread like wildfire.

@freemo @bluejay informed consent does not have exemptions but for being medically incapacitated.
@freemo @bluejay that's literally not how informed consent works.

@icedquinn it literallys is. That is why we can do druug tests without informing the patient whats in the drug. They agree to take the drug without knowing ahead of time what it is.

@bluejay

@freemo @bluejay no, it's not.

you have to be told you are going in to a clinical trial, and what the potential dangers of this might be (incl. being part of the placebo group.)

this is not some shrinkwrap shit i can hide on page 500 of the EULA and then jab you with cyanide and go "BUT FREEMO CLICKED I AGREE :cirno_deal_with_it:"
Follow

@icedquinn

The risks in a drug trial are still unknown. It also isnt on the 500th page of what a military personnel agrees to. They know up front when they sign on that they forfeit their freedoms including their right to decline vaccines.

@bluejay

@freemo @bluejay most enlistees actually don't know that they are losing all of their rights as a citizen.

it's kinda left out of the recruitment process.
Sign in to participate in the conversation
CleverLibre Social

CleverLibre Social is an inclusive social instance for open discussion, learning, and community.
All cultures welcome.
Hate speech and harassment strictly forbidden.