@waltercool we live in a democracy, you can vote for whatever leaders of your local and national educational system you want. beyond that most parents wouldnt know the first thing about most subjects to even know what or how to teach it or what is important. You can pull out your kid and homeschool them however you want. But in the end if you want your kid to earn a degree this assumes they are able to successfully master all the major subjects adequetly. You have control as to how they learn, but you cant just make up fictions and expect someone to certify your child with a degree in subjects they dont understand.

@freemo @waltercool
>we live in a democracy, you can vote for whatever leaders of your local and national educational system you want
Imagine actually believing this.
@Eris @freemo Democracy means you pick a dictator every 4 or 6 years from the ruling political class.

Most of the time, you don't have real choices.
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This is true, or that the votes are fair in general (for example not being bought with ads)
@waltercool

@Eris

Huh? My original statement assumed votes were actually counted. This is a correct statement. What do you mean what am I talking about pretty sure my original statement clearly implied the votes would be counted.

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool
>My original statement assumed votes were actually counted. This is a correct statement.
No it isn't.

@Eris

So my original statement did not make the assumption that votes were counted?

If that isnt a correct statement and I wasnt implying that, then why would you even bother pointing it out? Clearly you misread what I said, more than once now.

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool
>So my original statement did not make the assumption that votes were counted?
It's an incorrect assumption.

@Eris

Ok, so your saying I DID make the assumption. Therefore my statement that it was assumed was correct afterall. Glad you are all caught up now.

@waltercool

@Eris

I dont really care that you are trying to troll and all, but at least be good at trolling if you are going to bother.

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool Now you're accusing me of trolling to avoid the point. Also cringe.

@Eris

You are either trolling or worse. My original statement assumed votes were counted, this is obvious. Yes I know you want to start some debate about democracy and I'm sure it will end in a shit show, so no, I really coudl care about that tangent. I pointed out yes it is an assumed axiom of my statement, take it or leave it.. here you are still throwing a hissy fit.. sorry but the crings is all you, let it go or debate that point with someone who is interested in that topic.

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool
> My original statement assumed votes were counted, this is obvious.
It's obviously a false assumption.
>Yes I know you want to start some debate about democracy and I'm sure it will end in a shit show, so no, I really coudl care about that tangent
So you agree that you are deliberately avoiding the contradiction.
>et it go or debate that point with someone who is interested in that topic.
Thank you for admitting you are uninterested in being contradicted in any way.

@Eris

> It's obviously a false assumption.

Ok I really dont care that your opinion is that it is both obvious and false. Again stop being a child, I dont care about your opinions on if that is true or not. If you dont think its true, then great, you dont think my statement is true, move along.. if you do, then also fine. Either way I dont care and the less I care abotu you disagreeing the more you throw a bigger and bigger fit and keep going on... not sure how many ways I need to hint at not caring about what you want to discuss.

> So you agree that you are deliberately avoiding the contradiction.

I agree that I am avoiding the contradiction that arises from your opinion. Other that that I have 0 interest in discussing if I agree with that opinion or not.

> Thank you for admitting you are uninterested in being contradicted in any way.

You are welcome, yes you are corrrect I am not interested in your opinion that arises in this being a contradiction. I am not disagreeing or agreeing with you, I am simply telling you it is a topic I really dont care about as it is always boring, pointless, and largely just ends in a pile of shit.

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool Is there anything you do have an interest in discussing or do you just want to drop retarded opinions and act passive aggressive and dismissive at anyone who replies?

@Eris

Sure lots of things. Would be happy to discuss advanced mathematics with you, or classical literature, poetry is nice, optics, software/programming, electrical engineering. Tons of things Id be more than happy to discuss and would find interesting.

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool Why did you post an opinion you yourself don't find interesting and don't want to discuss
Why would you do that

@Eris

I never said my opinion or the topic overall is uninteresting to me to discuss. What I find uninteresting to debate is if if votes are counted accurate or not. I've had that debate thousands of times already and its one of like 3 things a certain large class of people constantly like to do their best to turn into an argument or discuss. After so many times hearing the same worn out nonsense I really cant be arsed to discuss that yet again.

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool

>What I find uninteresting to debate is if if votes are counted accurate or not
I wonder why you find that "ininteresting"
Maybe because the obvious reality negates your viewpoint, and you can't handle that.
>I've had that debate thousands of times already
I'm willing to bet you lost every time and never admitted it.

@Eris

> I wonder why you find that "ininteresting"
Maybe because the obvious reality negates your viewpoint, and you can't handle that.

Nope. I never said I disagreed with you, in fact now for the 4th time I've explicitly told you I am not asserting if i agree or not. I already told you why, because its the same stupid argument you and half of the more annoying half of the fediverse constantly want to debate.. its old, its boring, and its been done to death. Its uninteresting because you wont (and so far have not) say anything new.

@waltercool

@Eris

Because I know waltercool well enough that his replies have some interesting @waltercool points to make that I enjoy discussing when he does, even if i often disagree. You on the other hand did not make a point I find at all interesting discuss or present any new or insightful perspectives on it, so I tried multiple times to avoid discussing it, which you seem to take personally.

@freemo @waltercool

>You on the other hand did not make a point I find at all interesting discuss or present any new or insightful perspectives on it
Anything that would lead to an argument you would actually lose is "uninteresting."

A very dishonest way to avoid ever having to change your mind.

@Eris

You really need to see someone about that borderline personality disorder you got going there buddy.. I already said I didnt even necessarily disagree iwth you. I said neither way if i agreed or not. Only that I give 0 fucks about the discussion, which you continue to react to like a toddler in the heat of a tantrum and frankly its just boring

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool

I can deduce from
>I give zero fucks about the discussion
That you disagree and want to avoid losing.

I'm not retarded dude I can see what you're doing.

@Eris

God you are a level of stupid I havent seen in a while... The world isnt so black and white. In all liklihood yo'll have some extremist obnoxious point of view while I will be in the middle accepting half your points and disagreeing with the other half. Meanwhile you keep acting like a 8 year old with a personality disorder.

I'm sorry its so upsetting to you that someone doesnt care about something you want to discuss.. now act like an adult and move along and argue with someone who cares.

If you reply again I will just block you as the next step because you have added 0 value and just wasted time trying to start an argument that I couldnt care less about.

Say something interesting and insightful next time we cross paths and ill be happy to care.

@waltercool

@freemo @waltercool

>The world isnt so black and white.
People only ever say this when they are in the wrong. The world is very black and white.
>In all liklihood yo'll have some extremist obnoxious point of view while I will be in the middle accepting half your points and disagreeing with the other half.
Why not be a man and agree with them all?
>I'm sorry its so upsetting to you that someone doesnt care about something you want to discuss..
Cope.
>Say something interesting and insightful next time we cross paths and ill be happy to care.
I did. You just aren't interested in insight.
@freemo Did the same due same reasons.

I don't block anyone even if I disagree, but feeding the troll can get annoying and a waste of time. They are usually bored people trying to get fun by mocking others.

Sorry to get you involved.
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