A subway isn’t a realist option according to most experts. It wouldn’t be money wise.
A bus is still submitted to traffic. We need an alternative. Something that will say : I will take the tramway so I don’t get stuck in traffic.
The only one who proposed a subway is Gosselin who was notoriously anti public transit until now, and he is being guided by someone who doesn’t believe climate change is real.
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While I dont support the bus option since it still relies on the large footprint of streets it doesnt need to be subject to traffic as proven by the dutch. In the netherlands buses and other vehicals with large capacity have their own dedicated lanes. They also have sensors at stop lights that ensure the light is always green when a bus approaches it.
So using such a system a bus is guaranteed to never be slowed down no matter what the traffic is at the time.
@freemo @shoshin we have this in Quebec too, but the bus still have to stop at traffic lights and cars with more than two people can also use these lanes. Some I assume are not ridesharing and using these lanes because I often hear the bus driver honking at cars. I think the tramway will have these green lights.
fix the problem by adding stop light sensors so buses dont have to stop and by upping the required number of people to ride int he lane to 6.
@freemo @shoshin to be fair there’s not enough people that take these lanes so it wouldn’t be necessary to make it to 6 people.
I rarely take a car, but when I do it’s generally to go to my parents in Charlevoix. My brother and roommate drive and we usually pick up my other brother who live with his friends at another flat. So we’re always tree in the car.
Sometimes my brothers will go together to get groceries at large supermarket where it’s cheaper. And sometime we go to Montreal together or he goes alone and pick up friends or strangers on a carpooling app (AmigoExpress) (definitely cheaper than bus or train if you do Quebec <-> Montreal or other cities)
Fair. The point being the issue of traffic when it comes to buses can be eliminated should it be a problem compared to a tram... Thoguh as I said I'd prefer a tram for the smaller footprint. That and its easier to make a tram electric than to force electric cars.
Buses not going everywhere is a choice, not inherent. Maybe that suggests your bus network needs work.
In theory a bus system should be easier to develop that can "go everywhere" than a tram or train. A tram or train is limited to its tracks whereas a bus could easily go anywhere you can get to with a road.
If it doesnt have the density for a bus, then wouldnrt it be less so the case that it has the density for a tram, which would require a whole trail system to be built just to cater to a handful of people a day
@freemo @shoshin this isn’t really what I’m talking about.
Charlevoix is the countryside villages east of Québec city. It doesn’t have the density for a bus. Although there is one but it only goes once a day.