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@waltercool FYI the image is fake and the LGBT foundation's logo was photoshopped onto it. They made an official statement against the image when it first surfaced in 2019:
@freemo It’s a joke lol. I know LGBT groups don’t consider MAP seriously since late 90s, but they are very weak trying to oppose them.
In past, they were the “weird guys from sexual movements”
https://www.dw.com/en/pedophilia-scandal-entangles-german-greens/a-16836153
https://www.rt.com/news/492170-berlin-pedophiles-foster-children/
@waltercool Fair. Though im not sure why one would expect them to have any comment on opposing them at all. Its not their obligation to oppose things that have nothing to do with them.
That said it is important we understand the seperation between a MAP vs a rapist who targets children (consenting or otherwise). MAP can often refer to a person who has sexual attraction to minors but recognizes this as inappropriate and does not express it and often seeks therapy to help overcome it. Many MAPs do not feel initimate relationship with minors is acceptable and would never engage in it (nor view porn of that nature). When we talk about MAPs of this type I think acceptance is appropriate since we should not judge someone for the urges they feel when they use a strong sense of morality to determine their actions regardless of their urges. In fact to shame someone for inappropriate feelings, particularly feelings they are going to therapy for and making an outward effort to suppress, would only cause the situation to get worse.
As long as they dont act on it by touching a child sexually, talking to them sexually, or viewing child pornography (which involves abuse of the child to create it) then I can be supportive of their condition.
I might be ok with them being around children so long as I am confident they would never act on their feelings, but I'd be cautious.
I mean, I'm attracted to adult women but I am perfectly ok being around them without touching them, even women who wont conscent. So I cant understand a MAP who doesnt act on their urges being ok to be around them. I prefer to judge someone based on their actions not their internal feelings. So as long as they never acted inappropriately or said anything to suggest they would then I can be ok with that.
I do agree of course that should a pedo/MAP feel attracted to a child, given the childs young age, and the adults experience, it may be rather easy for the adult to manipulate the child into something in appropriate. Anything like this is entirely unacceptable of course, even if it doesnt lead to sex.
The only time a MAP would use it to their advantage is if they are a bad person with intent to act. Obviously such people exist, my point is only that some MAPs are just as in control of their sexual urges as a morally conscious man (hetero) would be around a woman. There are of course rapists too and a rapist can be attracted to adults or kids, one is a bit worse than the other but neither is acceptable by a long shot of course.
As long they aren't close to kids, I'm OK. Kids can't consent or easily reject things from adults, they are very easy to manipulate.
Adults have more life experiences and knowledge to manipulate any kid, as example, you can observe youth indoctrination at both Nazi and Communist China regimes. You can also see that on current schooling system.
Sometimes is just whitewashing history of deadly ideologies, sometimes is creating a false history of our past. Why a MAP wouldn't use that for their own benefit?