people read me pretty well visually and I gotta work on my voice I know I know but I'm sooooooo sick of getting sir'ed when I'm on the phone :\
down with unnecessary gendering in language tbqh, lojban's approach to pronouns everywhere
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@cwebber Do they do this even when they know your (new) name (Christine)? Or does it only happen when they have no indication of your intended gender?
@freemo usually when no indicated gender, but it's still frustrating. I'm not *blaming* the person because english trains on using gendered pronouns, I'm questioning whether that language choice is net beneficial when Lojban provides an alternative view of pronouns (temporary variables to which many kinds of info can be attached, *including* gender)
@cwebber Well thing is while he is considered general neutral when discussing someone in the third person I dont think it would apply in a direct conversation. Like if im on the phone with someone and their voice is ambiguous I wouldnt default to he/sir. I'd probably avoid it using "you". That said im not sure there is a gender neutral sir.
Its a tricky problem I guess and like you say hard to address in the current language without making up new words, and we all know how well that goes over with gender language.
Its a shame to say you need to work on your voice and to put the burden with you, though likely that is the reality. I can only imagine how much it must also hurt CIS gendered women who have masculine voices.
