@cee @Arcana @enigmatico @shebang @freemo I joined that covenant because I interpreted it as a simple list of instances that promised to only resort to defederation when necessary. But this federation sound like I'd need to answer to a hierarchy if I do something they don't like, and I wouldn't be willing to put myself into a situation like that

@lewdthewides

No you don't.. you have a right to leave anytime with no need to answer to anyone. So if that happens to be the case that you are called out and do not wish to go through the due process you can just leave. We have a rule in place that if you do the process is dropped and instances wont defederate or block you en masse.

The key to this is people can accurse you of something without talking about it, and going through due process... but as I said you can always just leave and avoid it all.

@Arcana @enigmatico @shebang @cee

@freemo @Arcana @enigmatico @shebang @cee but I would HAVE to answer to someone if I were to join. I already learned that central authorities aren't well received in this part of fedi, and I sympathize with that sentiment

@lewdthewides

Well depends what you mean by that.. in short, no. You can just join, go about your business and answer to no one. If you dont follow the rules you might not get in or stay in, but there are no reprocusions other than not to be in the UFoI. So you really dont need to answer to anyone or change anything, just be a good actor as i am sure you are and not a problem, if someone thinks your a bad actor you just leave, no answering to anyone.

@Arcana @enigmatico @shebang @cee

@freemo @Arcana @enigmatico @shebang @cee we shall see how it turns out, but I'm skeptical that everyone letting bygones be bygones will actually be practiced, and that there won't be grudges formed and/or retaliation due to noncompliance

@lewdthewides

It is something I am explicitly placing in the bylaws.. Remember we do **not** defederate or ban servers who are bad actors within or without the UFoI... our stance is we garuntee federation within the UFoI but make no rules or expectations for defederating.

The fundemental principle here is a positive federation about ensuring connections, blocking and suspending is not a part of the UFoI on any level, bad acrtors just dont get garunteed federation anymore, thats all.

Would you like me to add you and if you get any sense of it being a problem you can always leave no questions asked?

@Arcana @enigmatico @shebang @cee

@freemo @Arcana @enigmatico @shebang @cee you can write all the laws you want, but any conflict created within the federation will most likely continue outside of it

But no, I wouldn't be interested right now
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