@jeff I also have a journa.host account, but when I foresaw this happening due to some of the behaviour of some members, I decided to create my own server as I didn't want to be investing a lot of time into an account based on a blocked server.

The thing which gets me also is when I tried explaining to other members that their actions were likely to get journa.host blocked, they just ignored or blocked me.

I hate to do this, but this is a big "I told you so" moment.

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@Howard

What actions? So far I havent seen anything from them to suggest they should be blocked.

@jeff

@freemo @jeff From what I observed myself, there was the whole debate about adding CW tags which many were really against and claimed it was "censorship".

Sure, people are free not to use CW tags, but don't complain then if people who prefer you to block you.

My perspective was not necessarily saying blocking was deserved or not, but simply an observation that blocking would likely happen, which is why I decided to pay for my own server and invest time in my own account on my own server.

@Howard

I've actually never seen a server blocked for not using CW... even 100K plus servers usually dont have CW rules and arent usually blocked.

@jeff

@freemo @jeff There were certainly concerns from within journa.host in the beginning which linked the use of CW, or rather the lack of use, with being blocked. And it was the attitude of some choosing it as a hill to die on which I thought could have resulted in more blocks happening.

Although there are obviously other reasons too for journa.host being blocked. Like I said, just what I foresaw may happen hence I decided to build my own server.

@Howard

Honestly the fedi has turned pretty nasty and toxic since the twitter influx... I am not surprised people have gotten so crazy about it they are blocking instances just for not using CW... in my 5+ years ont he fedi this is depressing to see.

@jeff

@freemo @jeff What genuinely surprised me was that the CW function was genuinely considered a sensible hill to die on. I didn't quite understand why it was so "controversial" to some.

@Howard

After having seen how toxic some in mastodon can be, demanding more and more from you under the threat of being suspended over increasingly insiignificant things I do kinda get the push back.

I will CW over things that would get you trouble in work or images of violence that can be really harmful.. But I try not to go too crazy with it either.

@jeff

@freemo @jeff I just treat it like a headlining function to be fair. I rather like it and I have found myself CWing all of my posts lol.

I wouldn't want a news website for for me to read every article it had, as I choose what I want to read by headline. So that's kind of the approach I'm taking with it.

@Howard

I dont mind if people use iot, even if they use it a lot... but to suspend/b;ock someone or a server over it is an astonishing turn for the worst for the fedi.

@jeff

@freemo @jeff I wonder if I'm less bothered by this if I should be... Hmmm.

This is the way I look at it...

X does not like to the way Y behaves, even if others are in okay with Y. X has a choice to not associate with Y.

It's not saying Y doesn't have a choice to do what Y wants. Just X doesn't want to see Y do what Y wants to do.

If Y wants to associate with X, then Y will have to think whether to get opportunity cost of changing Y's behaviour is worth the association with X.

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