Amazing!
One guy burned the quran in sweden yesterday, and today all the arabian world is burning swedish flags demanding that sweden abolish freedom of speech.
This is good!
This shows the world that islam is a barbaric religion and that the arabian world is forever incompatible with democratic values.
I hope that more people in sweden pick up this tradition and burn one quran every day of the year.
As an added benefit, perhaps the arabians who are already living in sweden and (...)
@h4890 The liberal side of the fediverse is pretty damn vocal about hating free-speech instances too.. just mentioning you support free speech is asking for mass suspension.. this is hardly limited to the fediverse and seems to be a recurring theme across american liberal communities in my expiernce.... I guess american liberals are barbaic and incompatible with democracy too then?
Yep, I think that pretty much sums it up. I've never argued in favour of democrats being banned or in republicans being banned. I'm not a nazi, but I loathe arabian culture and religion and see it as a great threat to the freedom of the world.
So yes, these communities trampled on their own constitution I agree with you there.
@h4890 Hey points for consistency, so I'll give you that much.
How much time have you spent among arabian culture in the middle east?
I have traveled there, and people close to me have worked in their tourist sector, and have travelled extensively in the region.
I also spend significant time in the little arabia in the north (sweden).
So to summarize, I stand by my statement, and I've had exposure to their culture first hand, and second hand through people close to me.
The only inch I am willing to give you is that individual arabians can be very nice and assimilated, but when it comes to the aggregate (...)
@h4890 Having people close to your traveling there extensively doesnt mean much IMO, its the first hand expiernce im curious about. Its good to hear youve been there... How much time did you spend the musslim side of the middle east? What parts?
Mainly egypt, jordan and stockholm. As for the time, all three combined are moments stretched over years so I have no idea or desire to quantify it.
If possible, could you skip straight to the conclusion of your socratic questioning?
@h4890 I asked to better understand how you could come to such an inaccurate conclusion and add it to my mental data, nothing more.
Ah, but it is not inaccurate. Based on all my data, travels and interactions, it is completely correct until proven otherwise.
Just look at arabian society and how degraded it is. That is all the proof you need. =)
I invite you to revise your data for the future of europe and your children.
But if your starting point is that I am incorrect, I think we'd better stop here in order not to waste each others time.
@h4890 I will listen to any pov. But so far the totality of the data proves you wrong. Im less interested in conviencing you of that and more curious as to how you came to the conclusion you did.
I disagree. I think you are wrong and that history and the current state of the world proves it.
The data comes from my travels and extensive experience with arabians in Stockholm.
I assume you have not been in Stockholm to disprove my experience there?
I also assume you have your own experience which I cannot disprove.
So I do not see how we can reconcile or find common ground.
@h4890 I understand that is your position, but your response doesnt really help me understand how you coukd be so wrong, which is what im curious about.
I have been to stockholm, but are discussion is about arabian culture as a whole so stockholm isnt too relevant there. My guess is you spent a week or two in egypt/jordan and were already biased and looking for excuses before you even left. Basibg that purely on your evasiviness towards answering the question and only answering it by adding stockholm to the pool.
I also suspect that if uou look at arabians in a setting where they are a minority they will be far less pleasant and more defensive and thus paint an inaccurate picture of the culture as compared to what youd see in their homeland.
The question is not binary. To be honest, I do not care about what they do in their homelands, and you can just turn on the news and see the barbarous customs there and how they treat women and how they spit on the value of human rights.
As far as arabians in stockholm, that is no excuse. They have supposedly free will, and if they don't behave their that is their problem, and I would gladly kick them back to their stone age societies.
You can also look at a high level view (...)
@freemo and see that arabia has never achieved anything in the modern world. No, that is not europes or the "white mans" fault, but a proof of the low level of their culture.
Look at india, europeans helped lift india out of medieval times and helped shape them into a major economic power.
Arabia, apart from some oil, which is actually help from the white man, since if it were for western expertise, the oil would still sit in the ground and they would still ride around on their camels, (...)
@freemo has achieved nothing but terrorism, torturing of women, taking countries such as iran who were on some kind of progress towards a modern society and bringing it back to the stone age. And yes, that is the arabians fault since they forced their religion on the persians who would have prospered if it weren't for that horrible religion.
Look at europe, crime, rape, violence toward women, honor killings, these is all due to arabian immigration.
The fact that you are unaware of this (...)
@freemo makes me think that you work in the public sector and only follow national news broadcasts which have worked hard to hide the enormously destructive arabian influence on european society.
But you should hang out a bit more on the fediverse where you will find pointers towards what is really going on.
So the only way to handle arabians in europe is to move the majority of them back to arabia, and the remaining ones should be assimilated into european culture.
Islam is a (...)
@freemo terrorist ideology and should be forbidden and treated just like national socialism.
Reading the book you can see how revolting it is.
Last but not least, I can see a possibility that you are one of the soft hearted, pro islam and immigration, socialists, who reaches out.
Let me tell you dear man, that you have been duped.
Arabians have an islam for the white man, and they use this to get government money. Let me assure you that when you have gone home for the night, the (...)
Also, it is highly illogical to have the stance that only direct experience allows one to speak of something.
We are humans and can communicate knowledge through books and other media (not only TV) which means that you can spend your life in arabia, isolated from the world, and I can study other source from a broader set of people and be more informed than yourself.
@freemo
Love how you assume that TV is the only possible channel of news and information.
On the other hand, if that is your view, then your data cannot be worth much.