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The Governor just called the school shooting in Tennessee a “tragic situation.”
Think about that.
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@georgetakei I'm not sure I'm following... It is a tragic situation isnt it? Very tragic.
@freemo @georgetakei Hello, "Dr."
The second sentence of the original post is as important as the first.
Maybe reread this very simple and straightforward statement to become less obtuse.
Wow thats some impressive passive aggressive hostility there... Have you tried talking to people civilly and in good faith to have productive conversatios? It works wonders.
"sesnative eyes".. I hope this isnt a red flag that your coming in with the intent ot have a bad-faith discussion and generally be a rude asshate.. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe im over reading this, but, try to not waste mytime wiht toxic passivce aggressive shit please
Now to answer your question... sadly, thats not what the numbers show. Sadly, very few people are educated enough or dig deep enough, or for that matter objective enough, to really understand this. Especially when its a topic with a hell of a lot of bias and misinformation.
But the truth is, there is a very consistent pattern when you apply proper statistical analysis (read: granger causality test and other tests that are appropriate). In the overwhelming majority of cases we see time and time again, banning a type of gun, or guns more generally almost always results in a significant increase in homicide and crime rates. Rates that never really recover to a point where there is an improvement, even 20 years later.
While I understand the reasoning, may even seem like common sense, but as a research scientist myself I go with the numbers even if it disagrees with my assumptions.
@freemo @lawnikky @georgetakei
What an interesting shifting of the goalposts, "Dr."
How many fallacies are you going to engage in?
Suddenly "no one can understand this but me..."
Suddenly, the issue isn't gun control, but "banning guns..."
Suddenly, the issue is "crime rates" generally, not, say, mass killings.
All w/o citation, "Dr," b/c you want control of the narrative here.
It's amazing how full of shit you are.
Funny how your spitting out all these quotastions of things no one ever said.. and so beautifully passive aggressive and bad-faith, not to mention toxic... its a work of beauty really, congrats. Thanks for being a waste of electricity on the internet, wonderful.
@freemo @lawnikky @georgetakei
Are you literally slow? Like daft?
Look, Mr. "Dr." those are paraphrases, taken directly from your post.
I get that this kind of thing freaks you out -- being confronted by actual doctors and the like... people with real education. It's tricky b/c the usual bluster derpitude doesn't work on those of us who have served on actual dissertation committees and whatnot. People who don't suffer fools gladly.
But let's return to your original point: that neither Democrats nor Republicans can solve the problem...
How does that fit into this latest narrative of "gun control isn't the answer?"
I await your next fallacy, Mr. "Dr."
Ahh wonderful, your passive aggressive toxicity has now turned into bald face childish insults and a little toddler tantrum... wow you really are a train wreck in slow motion.
I can see I made the right judgemment call on you too by not engaging with you. My determination you'd just be a waste of my time, aggressive, and bad-faith arguing is confirmed more with each response... dodged the bullet there.
Carry on though, it is entertaining to see you act like an 8 year old rather than engaging in an actual mature and productive conversation...
@freemo @lawnikky @georgetakei
Again, none of this is passive-aggressive. I'm directly attacking the foundation of your claims.
And you can't answer any of those challenges. Not one. No answers to a single question about your authority on this topic?
Thank you.
That's now here for everyone to see.
Are you really lacking that much self awareness.
While, yes, you did post attacks against my claims sprinked throughout your response, and these attacks themselves are both welcome and valid talking points...it was also intermingled with constant passive aggressive, insulting, and rude comments... are you really going to sit here nad try to claim you were being passive agressive or arguing in good faith when it literally was spewing all over your post?
Just becauseyou throw in some valid talking points I'd be happy to address in isolation doesnt change the fact that all the content between those talking points were effectivelly a immature tantrum with clear signals that any attempt to make an honest engagement with you would be a complete waste of time.
Now if you feel like apologizing and want to start over with a more mature conversation I would be more than happy to accept your apology and move forward with a more meantingful conversation.
@freemo @DoesntExist @georgetakei wow … Australia had a gun problem … placed gun control measures in place … now less of a problem with guns. Notice I said “less” and not none. You can never eradicate a problem without eradication of the source … but … you can control it. And there is the wording … CONTROL. it’s why they call it ‘Gun Control’. You would have ‘less’ mass murders with more gun ‘control’. Argue that point!
Actually while the overwhelming majority of countries that banned guns saw large spikes in homicide and violence rates as a result, you actually are correct that australia was an exception and they saw very little change overall.
What we saw in australia is that following the gun buyback program unlike other countries homicide rates did go down.. Sadly sexual assault rates sky rocketed by a similar number. So not sure I'd call that a win.
for reference I've attached some violent crime and homicide rates correlating to gun law changes for reference and we can see fairly obviously that australia tends to be the exception.
One important note is there isnt a gun problem, ther eis a biolence problem.. so you are doing dishonest analysis if you are looking at gun violence in isolation and ignoring the other violence and murder that guns also prevent.
@freemo @georgetakei It's not passive-aggressive hostility.
It's direct hostility in response to your dopey sea-lioning, which is as passive-aggressive as it gets.
I get it. You dish but can't take. It's the usual M.O.
Weird how you have 31k followers with this kind of garbage content. Where's the value-add, "Dr?"
@DoesntExist @freemo@qoto.org @georgetakei block the freemo troll
Whatever you want to call it is fine by me.. Point is you came in like a child having a tantrum making it quite clear youd be a waste of time to engage with in good-faith or to have anything remotely resembling a mature conversation... therefore I did not engage with your questions, and wont, until you actually behave like an adult.
Most of the reason i have 31K followers is because I engage with them respectfully and naturally no matter how strongly I disagree with them... in an internet world full of people like you spreading toxicity and insults rather than anything useful and productive it tends to result in quite a few followers.
@freemo @DoesntExist @georgetakei I posted my comment in the main post but I’ll reiterate it here … for your sensitive eyes … reform and stricter gun control is the only thing that will stop this, and until ALL Americans come onboard with this train of thought, you’re country will continue to be a laughing joke that is constantly, without resolve, full of bullshit “… thoughts and prayers …”. Wake up to what @georgetakei is saying!!!