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The Governor just called the school shooting in Tennessee a “tragic situation.”
Think about that.
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@georgetakei I'm not sure I'm following... It is a tragic situation isnt it? Very tragic.
@freemo @georgetakei Hello, "Dr."
The second sentence of the original post is as important as the first.
Maybe reread this very simple and straightforward statement to become less obtuse.
Wow thats some impressive passive aggressive hostility there... Have you tried talking to people civilly and in good faith to have productive conversatios? It works wonders.
@freemo @DoesntExist @georgetakei I posted my comment in the main post but I’ll reiterate it here … for your sensitive eyes … reform and stricter gun control is the only thing that will stop this, and until ALL Americans come onboard with this train of thought, you’re country will continue to be a laughing joke that is constantly, without resolve, full of bullshit “… thoughts and prayers …”. Wake up to what @georgetakei is saying!!!
"sesnative eyes".. I hope this isnt a red flag that your coming in with the intent ot have a bad-faith discussion and generally be a rude asshate.. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe im over reading this, but, try to not waste mytime wiht toxic passivce aggressive shit please
Now to answer your question... sadly, thats not what the numbers show. Sadly, very few people are educated enough or dig deep enough, or for that matter objective enough, to really understand this. Especially when its a topic with a hell of a lot of bias and misinformation.
But the truth is, there is a very consistent pattern when you apply proper statistical analysis (read: granger causality test and other tests that are appropriate). In the overwhelming majority of cases we see time and time again, banning a type of gun, or guns more generally almost always results in a significant increase in homicide and crime rates. Rates that never really recover to a point where there is an improvement, even 20 years later.
While I understand the reasoning, may even seem like common sense, but as a research scientist myself I go with the numbers even if it disagrees with my assumptions.
@freemo @lawnikky @georgetakei
What an interesting shifting of the goalposts, "Dr."
How many fallacies are you going to engage in?
Suddenly "no one can understand this but me..."
Suddenly, the issue isn't gun control, but "banning guns..."
Suddenly, the issue is "crime rates" generally, not, say, mass killings.
All w/o citation, "Dr," b/c you want control of the narrative here.
It's amazing how full of shit you are.
Funny how your spitting out all these quotastions of things no one ever said.. and so beautifully passive aggressive and bad-faith, not to mention toxic... its a work of beauty really, congrats. Thanks for being a waste of electricity on the internet, wonderful.
@freemo @DoesntExist @georgetakei wow … Australia had a gun problem … placed gun control measures in place … now less of a problem with guns. Notice I said “less” and not none. You can never eradicate a problem without eradication of the source … but … you can control it. And there is the wording … CONTROL. it’s why they call it ‘Gun Control’. You would have ‘less’ mass murders with more gun ‘control’. Argue that point!
Actually while the overwhelming majority of countries that banned guns saw large spikes in homicide and violence rates as a result, you actually are correct that australia was an exception and they saw very little change overall.
What we saw in australia is that following the gun buyback program unlike other countries homicide rates did go down.. Sadly sexual assault rates sky rocketed by a similar number. So not sure I'd call that a win.
for reference I've attached some violent crime and homicide rates correlating to gun law changes for reference and we can see fairly obviously that australia tends to be the exception.
One important note is there isnt a gun problem, ther eis a biolence problem.. so you are doing dishonest analysis if you are looking at gun violence in isolation and ignoring the other violence and murder that guns also prevent.
