@just_a_frog

Solving racism isnt simple, nor is there going to be one simple solution to it (which is why AA isnt a solution either, it tries to be)... but some examples?

Better access to early education (free tutors, better funding of inner city public schools, free access to extra curricular schooling).

Better support for those who are in poverty in terms of healthcare, food and shelter.

Better access to mental health care (this is just all around food for families and people).

Better training opportunity for their parents (like free education and trade school) so fewer minority families are in poverty to begin with and thus have better opportunities.

Just to name a few....

@jerry

@freemo @just_a_frog @jerry so your solutions would involve many changes that would take many people to agree on controversial topics that may never come to fruition. Not to say I don’t agree with the changes you are suggesting. I’m just trying to be realistic about the outcome. However you feel about this change it’s going to have a huge impact on disadvantaged people and there is nothing currently in place to make up for making this change.

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@cienmilojos @just_a_frog @jerry

Yup and i do realize the difficukty in solving it. But as we can see from the reversal of AA implementing a fundementally unjust attempt at a solution doesnt have acceptance either.

Id suggest a real solution without the moral issues AA had woukd stand a much better chance of passing and remaining enforce than half assed solutions with real gapping moral holes people can and will complain about.

@freemo @just_a_frog @jerry if the only concern is people complaining, that’s really a non-issue. People will complain, forever and always. They’ll complain about the changes you suggested. My problem with this whole thing is instead of coming up with a solution we now have another problem. So you know can someone go resurrect JFK so we can try this again?

@cienmilojos

No the only concern is not people complaining. Tbe concern is it is structured in an injust way using racist-like principles. The fact that people complain means it is likely not to hold up as a law, and ultimately be nullified as it just was. Which means its not just unjust, but also will not serve as a protection for long due to its unconstitutional nature.

Aa was never a sokution, thats also the problem. I woukd argue people woukd complain a lot less about real solutions that dont soubd like a racists playbook than they ever will AA. Thats the problem with a lot the left does, the intention is good but its so poorly structured, to the point of being unjust, that their psuedosolutions never stick around for long since they rely on a thin transient majority rather than comrpomise (the republicans dont do this much better mind you)

@just_a_frog @jerry

@freemo @just_a_frog @jerry I guess in this matter it was decided that no solution is better than any solution. 🤷🏻‍♂️ And I don’t agree with you that affirmative action was racist and that’s OK.

@cienmilojos

Im nto calling it racist, that is a matter of semantics.. i am saying it is racist-like... taking the equation racists use and using it. Regardless of if it is racist, it resembles it close enough to be a problem, and with good reason.

And I kind of agree something is better than nothing. But the only way you get a good, effective, and just, something is if you reject it when its not, because thats the only time people are forced to try to comrpimise and find a better solution, one that doesnt violate the constitution (as perceived by the SCOTUS)

@just_a_frog @jerry

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