I see many people here saying that #Israel is being too heavy-handed in their approach to fighting #Hamas, as they cannot kill the terrorists without also killing the citizens in #Palestine that they are using as human shields.
To them I posit a question: how would you propose that #Israel defeat #Hamas? Is there an alternative way to beat these terrorists that I’ve just not seeing?
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@realcaseyrollins Israel has already commited mass genocide, stolen a nation from its people who were already there, and commited long-term acts of terrorism on the palestinians for multiple generations now....
They should start by apologizing and giving the land back to the people who were there first, that would be a nice start.
@freemo I’m not here to talk about the territorial dispute, which I haven’t made my mind up on. Just the terrorism.
I don’t think the stealing of land justifies rape and murder, but that’s just me.
@icedquinn @freemo Just doesn’t seem feasible or wise to try divying up the land during active war and conflict, to me
Sure but the billion dollars we give them comes with the condition that they gotta buy all their christian bibles from us... so it practically pays for itself :)
@icedquinn @freemo Now this I agree with
Its a USA problem because we are the ones who let it get this far to begin with.. If we hadnt given Israel all the money to commit genocide thent he palestinians might have had a fighting chance
people just say because hitler or because greatest ally, but like
all we do is give them shit and apologize for their gaffes, what does the USA actually get in exchange for putting up with their shit constantly
@icedquinn @freemo “muh Christian nation” + oil, probably
Whats israel have to do with christianity? Their jews not christians, and might I remind you, jews who wanted to make it illegal in their country to be christian.
i think people were scared to start shit in general but now that the USA is just flagging weakness everywhere ... might as well
@icedquinn @freemo It’s sad, really. And at this point I don’t see a way for conflict to end without further escalations. Ain’t nobody willing to put their arms down anytime soon over there.
@icedquinn @freemo I might not understand vassal stated but it sounds like you’re arguing for colonization, which I’m not a fan of
On that I agree, whe shouldnt be supporting israel, and shouldnt have int he past... the issue for me is we cant just stop now cause we caused it to get this bad.. so we in it now its of our making.
@icedquinn @freemo Me either. I just generally like the idea of a state of #Israel existing because I am a #Christian. Doesn’t mean that the #USA needs to support them.
What int he world would the state of israel have to do with christianity? The natives who lived there took good care of the holy city for thousands of years.. wasnt until israel showed up and started taking everything away there were problems.
@freemo @icedquinn Christians have always had a soft spot for Jews, even though they hate us lol
why do american christians mutilate penises? christ didn't tell you to do it.
How else would our kids know who is in charge if we dont slice off a little nip of their dick on the first day to set the precedence?
Thats the excuse, but it doesnt fit as there isnt good medical evidence for it
That may be, but there is no logical reason for it as a christian. If anything you should be buddy buddy with the Muslims, they beleive everything in christianity is true (even jesus). They are closer to christians than jews ideologically.
If anything you should be buddy buddy with the Muslims, they beleive everything in christianity is true (even jesus)
Oh heck no, you’re not just off the reservation with that take, you’re off the face of the planet 😂
That said I think there’s a perspective of, the Jewish people are people that God has loved and preserved for so long, so we should care about them too.
> Oh heck no, you’re not just off the reservation with that take, you’re off the face of the planet 😂
How ya figure... just look at the comparison...
Muslims beleive everything int he new testament is true and is part of their own holy books.. jews not so much.
They beleive jesus was real and came to earth and spoke the word of god... jews dont
Were you aware the christian new testament was one of the Muslim holy texts? Were you aware they worshipped jesus and beleive jesus spoke the word of god?
Were you aware the christian new testament was one of the Muslim holy texts? Were you aware they worshipped jesus and beleive jesus spoke the word of god?
They don’t believe that Jesus is God though. That’s the whole point of everything that He did on earth tho, and why the Jews killed Him in the first place. A Muslim would refute this.
Correct, the musslims do not beleive jesus was god, only a prophet for god... the jews however beleive he wasnt even that much, they think he was just a crazy old coot with a god complex... so which of the two are more similar to you, the one who thinks jesus was sent by god and speaks for god.. or the people who think jesus was a crazy person?
@freemo @icedquinn They both are equally off when it comes to Jesus, but I’d say that Muslims are closer. Still, when it comes to doctrine, not only do their own texts contradict each other, but much of Islamic ethics are incompatible with #Christian ethics
That may be a lack of understanding on your part... They agree with all the christian ethics, and I cant think of one that is in disagreement at all.. do you have an example? In fact they explicitly agree with all the ethics stated int he new testament that I know of.
whats the goal here
just keep maximizing the bankrupcy of the USA?
to actually stop ongoing violence?
etc
I agree.. and i am not suggesting we give them another penny as we do now... but yes, we need to change the tactic.
@freemo @icedquinn I think the #USA should do nothing and both sides should do what they can to win as quickly as possible since this war has lasted for far too long. Forever wars do nobody any good, either win or stop fighting.
@freemo @icedquinn I mean didn’t Mohammed have sex with goats and a child bride? That’s not in line with #Christian ethics.
I think there’s stuff in regards to the #Jihad, which is also against #Christian ethics (although ironically Christians themselves used similar ethics during the #Crusades)
You are refering to Aisha. She is not part of cannon musslim tradition (as in she isnt in the quran).
The age of her, if she had sex, and when are all debated points and not clearly identified int he Quran.
This rumor is about the same as the rumor around Mary being a prostitute... its speculation at best.
A Jihad is a difficult personal battle with some spirtual reward.. for example the proper word for a musslim getting over a drug addiction or overcoming some other struggle and finding spirtual growth from it would be called a Jihad.
How is any of that against christianity... it sounds like you were just really REALLY misinformed.
