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But for them it makes sense (and eventually us for getting food also for eating makes sense).

Did you ever have another way in mind (I'd be interested to hear)

The convenience and widespread petrol-plastic is also what they get back in recycling so for them makes sense in that way. I'm not happy at all, as it's all energy, but what else but to reduce products life outside of airtight packaging? Any ideas?

I thnk if we could reject it and even take non-plastic things then well this might be better. This is what I do. I only buy maybe 10 things the same and perhaps metal cans is something I do use (hmmm)
I'd like to pay those that do homegrown stuff (which wouldn't be enough to feed the world I think. So back to this industrial cycle.

I have cabbage, broccoli, , carrots, cauliflower, potatoes, oats, muesli, bread and everything veg mostly unbagged + no plastic (taking my own bags / rucksack). I also use water very minimally and other things.

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