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Many people don't need saving because they would only WILLINGLY fall into the next kind of hole... so while there are other considerations (many) still the sacrificing and over-giving is there that feeds abusers / corporate institutes all during the while they complain...

This willingness or bending to other people's will when you get down to the basics is the yes / no or fight/say something don't fight/ stay quiet that is there in all equations and after a while reinforces it willingly or not. But people definitely know and they bow / close eyes / don't make plans against / never will solve)

So you can encourage others but don't necessarily have to solve it 'for them' (they have to do that) and I guess I like T-group training is because people grow some courage and then can appreciate 'good contact' (feels like now there is only the bad examples and people even forget respect is possible even at work).

Not being harsh to people but they need others to give them some direction and even resistance to make them feel they are earning something or achieving (so here have a empty job to work in or certificate by some xyz gate-keeper). They need an excuse to feel validated - this is more the feeling... not that people are cheating them and to choose one thing at time or do something about it.

Let's face it the alternative does NOT grace us with much even for giving our time free our of work (we don't have any marketplace do we? And barely we can get together I think IRL or virtually)

Overall I think from people would anyway feed the next thing... and they wouldn't ask why a big American company is giving it for free... or when you tell them say "yeah but they have to pay the bills somehow"

Some analysis and factors from over the years (parents, people I've come across)

- self-sacrifice
honourable but stupid and ignorant of the wrong hands / who they keep giving to / giving in to and not having plan to change)

- self-respect
to keep busy but also in a society that suicides daily it makes sense / alignment for them to be 'normal' and also into a bad race

- fighting for others more than yourself
lack of self-esteem or own moral compass. Need others to confirm it's 'good' or 'legal' or 'ok' (again even if it's a bad thing or scolding you)

- lemming-ism (see other post just now)
easier to join other existing games - do not create your own
(lol @freeschool <---whoops that's me)... A lemming too for the free(dom) world? I'm not sure!

- Can't fight for themselves
Of course the system pushes all kinds of bully tactics or reductionist patterns such as specialisation itself or feeding 'efficiency mindsets' at cost of people and how they feel, but still for people it doesn't matter if they change their hours, dictate when they go to sleep with changed shift patterns etc!... oh sure I'll sign the new contract without debate or having a meeting why!

So anyway people of this kind would have followed or offered to the big monsters...

(bad joke follows) Let's jsut be glad it's not under Hitler or some leaders (whoops might as well be those days still <100 years later and yea I did just pull out Hitler as I'm not so sure what difference it would make if I face-swapped some of these leaders and their ignoring everything / financial fascism type ways)

so that's what I mean about not saving these people so hard or telling them always about Google so hard for 10th time.... it's like telling a lemming "hey think for yourself!" or follow me which is reserved only if you're a super-star.

Lemmings will tolerate and take all stick you give them as authority in many things just they can feel part of a group... or this reversed imagine of 'normal' trying to avoid any trouble,,, they won't even try to make things better while in the job or reform it even in the slightest because "other people must be more right" and "I have no sovereign agency here" (of course they don't even know what that last one means). They are weak / nice non-fighters. And maybe I prefer people to stick up for themselves]

I accept people are just that way... and it's up for the conscious few to make a better game which is not necessarily going into another extreme either - just not being so passive / uncreative / giving away their own rights and values.

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