That FreeBSD machine from the other day has shipped!

I'm always happy, whenever I do BSD installs. So much nicer and cleaner than Linux. I sell ThinkPad T440p and X230 with coreboot preinstalled, which replaces proprietary BIOS/UEFI.

I normally install Debian, but I also offer FreeBSD and OpenBSD installations.

My store: minifree.org

I sell coreboot, BSD and coreboot/BSD accessories.

@libreleah I'd like try FreeBSD but I don't like that they don't use the GPL license.

@libreleah thanks I'll read it and if you want I say my opinion about.

@maxxcan I basically agree with everything the article says. I switched sides in recent years, and I no longer rigorously campaign for adoption of copyleft.

I'm not against using copylefted software, or contributing to it, but I prefer MIT/ISC or other BSD-style licenses these days. All of my most recent work has, where possible, been released under a permissive license.

I do still contribute to and/or maintain copylefted software, and that's totally OK aswell.

@libreleah Here I see few problems. Many people thinks that your life and your work is out of political o philosophy. But no, humanity is closely related to politics and philosophy as it is intrinsic to us. It the critique to the GPL is that is a political movement I think is a bad critique.

@maxxcan It is done out of philosophy; specifically, the ideology that says all software should ideally be libre.

I merely go about it at a different angle than that of the FSF or GNU project; I used to be part of the FSF/GNU dogma, but not anymore. I drifted away from their way of thinking.

There is a lot of nuance to the BSD philosophy, that a lot of people in Planet GNU don't grasp. We're just as pro-freedom, in fact arguably more pro-freedom; copyleft is a curtailment of your freedoms.

@libreleah I know the GPL vs BSD controversy and I am thinking to much time about it. But my conclusion is for now that the GPL licence protects developers better. Maybe not now, but maybe in the future. And I am very clear that absolute freedom is neither possible nor advisable, because your freedom may go against my freedom. For example, if there are rich people, there must be poor people, and not because they are worse or work less.

@maxxcan Well, this is a very binary way of looking at the world.

Take rich people for example. The reality is that their wealth accounts for a very small percentage of GDP, in most countries, which, when you analyse the statistics (in any major capitalist country), the average worker actually gets a pretty fair deal.

If you took every billionaire in your country and divided all of their money among workers, those workers wouldn't actually get much extra, when you do the maths.

@maxxcan In the most extreme example, you could take the wealth of billionaires in the UK and give everyone a +20k pay rise - for 1 year.

1 year, because after, the billionaires will move all of their wealth and assets overseas (it's called capital flight).

When you look at tax statistics, in most western countries, the very wealthiest pay a huge portion of the tax burden.

Hiking their taxes would only send the signal: this country is not open for business. GDP and tax revenues would plummet.

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All good in this thread, just a note that this part (about pay rises or numbers) may over simplify it where greed is not even in the equation (i.e. profit pockets a lot of the money and is constantly unsatisified)

Something to do with mentality of exploitation is also there like "if we make it fair the big businesses will leave us" ! (not sure what to call that more than making it most tempting by making it more cheaper/exploiting that other countries) :)

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