I think it's bad when my colleagues go to work at companies that are objectively causing harm to the world, and despite how grim academia is I think it's weird I have to justify or even say that.
everyone needs to eat but no one needs to do ux design for weapons manufacturers or neural implant design for advertising companies.
@jonny UNLESS....
err...
unless weapons and ux for weapons IS the way people eat...
right from the top (capturing resources and energy) all the way down (maybe to us using energy)
TL;DR Quite everything is weaponised now and those in charge don't care... allow me to explain...
It can seem clear by your example because your example is quite extreme or universally agreed that it's unwanted,
BUT with an extreme example it can take itself out of the main point which ranks above that about what reality should ideally need (which again I agree is not ux for weapons but...)
BUT it's something deeper than that and for the point of your message it means seeing the chain we are fed on / depending on:
THAT IF everyone's job now or the eating system does involve the similar pattern (of uncaring / near-0 hierarchical care etc) and therefore means you have almost the same thing on all levels... tasteful or not...
WHICH IS very hard to accept but easier in more-visible extreme examples - so I'm saying "it's not quite that, something even deeper as the seeds sown"
IF almost everyone is doing work in exactly in the same max-profit profit patterns or funded in similar constructs this means people are also part of doing / helping with dirty work which is mostly underneath them and unseen whether it's a hospital (fucking awesome profit) or whether it's in manufacturing plant making smaller components for bombs that people in England don't even know about... because that whole chain (regardless of what we see or given to do) stems from these patterns, and layers of rules (the rules of uncaringness) ...to and from banks ...to and from selling / undermining ourselves for government accumulating power which re-enforces structural violence / systematic violence or (control/manipulation) ... which is again through everything towards profit / eating our energy / pocketing / cheating people and planet... domination.
Not sharing.
My friends are caring though it's INSIDE a massively uncaring and even opposite to caring construct. Not saying don't work but understand they wouldn't allow my friends to work UNLESS they are making big bucks for them.
I hope you agree or can see it's not just missiles and bombs it's actually £v£rything.
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I have a few conversations on my profile with freedom or free people who say "money is not the problem" (This paragraph and post and post wishes to say how far people under-estimate the unfair construct and think nice things are still not badly funded or not managed / created / evolution of the same thing or mentality.
Everything is quite the same / distributed from same people or mentality perhaps just different scale which still have similar % ratio of uncaringness / ignoring patterns and enforced template backing it from gov down to company, down to individual coercion / forced need for money and / or greed stresses on top via profit and %'s which always get out of hand deliberately as they eat public money for private gains.
@freeschool
yeah, on the same page re: burning down the systems of profit and extraction that structure labor relations like these.
@jonny "..burning down the systems of profit" ?
If you mean that I might mean the opposite (to burn it down or destroy) I'd say no or not yet...
This also seems like a good reaction / justified (...but sorry I'm catching that same thing again about being extreme!)
Here's why:
Again it wouldn't be the answer.
My answer is again just one thing past that and deeper to realise still at the end the people would just act emotionally the same and there is a lacking of depth or foresight to accept losses on how to play life nicely / expect much less / or even how to build something different...
So my answer in this is the ever skillful upper-middle of anything binary which is a typical momentary reaction for all things ( naturally ) but after thinking we see something similar found in chess; that to strike or destroy doesn't actual help.. chess perhaps helps show often that you can get rid of a lot BUT in life it's about making sure you have the right mentality and agreement of the people and satisfaction from life and others itself not to me$$ it up again.
Accepting people or more-accepting people rather than profit-only and unsaid things about unfair passive-agressive constructs.. so that is the thing not just structure (although massively it forces it but quick example is that I have worked on a farm or even two for whole days and still the farmer wanted electricity money or felt aggrieved even though I had to sit them down and tell them how much my labour worth 1000x more than the electricity I was grateful for)...
To understand 'this is the way' cn be good but also rather more importantly 'this, this and this ISN'T THE WAY!!!' lol
Doing the homework (freeschool somewhat)...
otherwise they the darling Lemmings WILL go off and start building and continue the same, or like the beginning of an an Empire game collect people and accumulate resources / money again without seeing the % going to the empire... without seeing the the soul and heart / care of each person is paramount <--- without sounding hippie - just it's far from knowing atm and it's what all humans want mostly though feel defeated or self-defeat themselves by looking at scale rather than slow-burn back to something better (by talking showing love to others for example / doing more trust / testing trust and other towards soemthing new )...
So same will repeat or reactions will be aesthetic / unguided if those things are not changes (literally heads or people as the head of the snake which could be a nicer snake like a pet!)
This is the acceptance of people and nice chess I mean where people are happy to have learned and not to use it to burn or make people suffer... actually enjoy being beaten towards skillful play or whatever...
I mention chess as it repeats this process of loss or exchanging pieces and you can see (you have to see) in the end it YOU MUST play better with the pieces you have rather than attrition / try to exchange everything which currently they would win over even in destruction unless 100% (resources / processing power / energy = fast enemy rebuild and maybe even less access for us).
I'm contacting experts who have the knowledge or right way but still simple things hinders everything / copies badly stuff / too much 2nd guessing (my server is great but a lot can't see past who makes or funds the toys and why or why trust anything more with same patterns more than going for people's minds AND THEN all the tech you want... NOT the other way around)
I go to a long-standing German IRC tech server and they kick me off even though someone asked me more about something - and this efficiency and doubt is also cutting people out (including themselves).
So this helps realise STILL THE POINT IS THE MENTALITY IN PEOPLE'S HEAD.
Destruction or cutting off wouldn't necessarily help that or might be funneled towards even more extreme reasons from putting ourselves in more corners. If I could co-ordinate just nicer things it would all nicely happen (no resistance, not alert to systems about rising up)... however now everyone is quite paranoid AND with ***unjustified paranoia too*** especially since I'm frank or upfront about things... so they are simply losing time doing the same thing expecting it to work or simply content with the 3rd party badness as long as they don't see or have to talk to anyone. False bliss.
The slow down is what really crushes capitalism while increasing the mind power / acceptance (knowing what is a trap helping opposite mentalities more than helping everyone else softer and gentler).
This helps reduce the fall out / anger to again the confidence and acceptance that the above 'is the right way' more often and exchanges for 'higher' or more guaranteed cause which is:
our own consciousness
and then for the next generation
To be born into less traps and coercion unknowingly...
