@hesgen That seems unnecessarily snarky. On climate, Starmer seems to have sound policy. Why are you unimpressed?
@KimSJ Because it's a vacuous statement that reeks of English exceptionalism.
@hesgen Give the guy a break. What would you like him to have said?
@KimSJ Is it what voters want to hear? That is not a rhetorical question. The thing about vacuous words from politicians is that they can put people off engaging with politics.
@hesgen In general, I think you’re right. In the particular case of climate action, I’m not so sure. I think people are desperate for any politicians prepared to take a lead. And UK declaring itself strongly pro-climate will have an effect, even if only a small one.
@Walrus @hesgen @KimSJ
I never understand that argument. If another party 'steal' another's policies and put them into action, isn't that a good thing? Surely it's the outcome that matters, not who brings in the legislation.
I know it's idealistic, but if there was a bit more cooperation and less competition, we might be a lot better off.
@Sarahw It’s because in our electoral system it’s essential to have ‘good ideas’ to differentiate yourself from the other party, or you don’t get to implement any of your policies. And just because the other guys see the electoral attractiveness of your policy and say they’re copying it doesn’t mean they’lll actually do it once they’re elected.
Humans will human, it seems.
In the Green Party of Englandandwales (tm), we'd be delighted to see other parties steal our policies. As long as they're implemented, we're not particularly fussed.
@hesgen But the Tories will steal policies to win votes, then not implement them. 🫤
I can't think of any that the Tories stole from Corbyn, but he kept coming up with them by the dozen, rather than taking any notice of Conference's policy decisions. But then, I have no idea what the tune for "Oh Jeremy Corbyn" sounded like.
@hesgen I take your point, but it is what voters want to hear. However much we hate it, that is what matters most in the next six months or so. On climate, we should perhaps judge him by his actions, not his words.