@sidawson @konstantin So how do we fix that? Is it possible to make a safe option that's so easy to use that non-tech folks can still manage it without someone to call for support?

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@hosford42 @sidawson @konstantin I think it's not realistic or efficient to expect most people to self-host (even with a VPS). Especially because some stuff people really rely on for important purposes (e.g. managed passwords) and therefore require high availability. In my mind the best thing to do is to help people find solutions that host with end-to-end encryption (that gives the host approximately zero knowledge of the content) and admits self hosting/3rd party hosting (for those who can). In this case (bookmarks), meets all the criteria.

@internic @sidawson @konstantin What about more of a federated approach, rather than strict self-hosting? ActivityPub-style...

@hosford42 @sidawson @konstantin Yeah, that's one possibility I was thinking of when I referred to admitting "3rd party hosting." Once you have that there are numerous possibilities.

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