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Listen, I know this is a bit, but... man, I have like ten computers in here (all with wireless radio connectivity to a global network), I have a robot that vaccuums my floor, and effectively unbreakable cryptography is free, legal, and accessible

We got *some* of the cool shit

@ceresbzns @mainframed767 I'd really like the immersive cyberspace though.

The tyranny of forms inherent to #meatspace is unpleasant.

@lispi314 @ceresbzns @mainframed767

Believe me, the hangover after 8 hours with your mind in an immersive cyberspace would be much, much worse. Your body requires your mind to be healthy. Even dreaming you are watching it; take that out and you're in trouble.

But there is worse. Imagine a fire, flood or stroke while in cyberspace. Your life expectancy would be clearly reduced.

@jgg @ceresbzns @mainframed767 Not really, failsafes are relatively easy to implement and link into alarm & detection systems. Alarm triggered? Alarm heartbeat times out? Wake-up.

I greatly doubt that the hangover would be worse than dysphoria, or worse than bodily awareness is for one's mental health.

@lispi314 @ceresbzns @mainframed767

We'll see.

Never got the point of metaverses and immersive cyberspace.

For regular computing or internet browsing, it seems like a form of skeuomorphism gone really bad. 2D GUIs are nearly always more intuitive and efficient.

For socializing, who knows, but, really, all my work calls nowadays are audio only, and not because a lack of cameras. We started with video, but gradually switched all cameras off. It is simply easier.

For hardcore gaming, yes, I can see it. For casual gaming, not a chance.

@jgg @ceresbzns @mainframed767 It is indeed not superior to current user interfaces for accomplishing the same tasks.

It's more effective for tasks they can't accomplish as well though, like some types of 3D design.

I don't think work use can really be considered in the same framework as voluntary socialization, because work is inherently stressful and involves a lot of masking & nonsense professionalism.

The case for #MorphologicalFreedom, social or solitary I think is an important one.

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@lispi314 @ceresbzns @mainframed767

I agree on most of what you have just said.

I could argue that voluntary socialization frequently involves masking and nonsense. People uses makeup, filters, drugs, hides their feelings or their weird sense of humor... It depends. But I agree with your point: work is usually more restrictive.

I have never been interested in morphological freedom, but I can understand other people wanting it. For me, shopping clothes is a real chore; choosing a whole body seems much worse. To each its own.

@jgg @ceresbzns @mainframed767 Right, it's not just that work is more restrictive, but also that unlike your voluntary social circle (which may well be selected for how accepting of your particular brand of weirdness it is), you largely have no choice about it.

Rent needs paying and just refusing because local work culture is toxic nonsense can be quite difficult.

As for the body aspect, I can think of a few conceptually simple improvements for myself that are technically unattainable atm.

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