Me: There was a point in computing history when we could have had high-level programming languages be a normal way to interact with and customize your machines, like on the Alto. Computers, even microcontrollers, have much more power to do that stuff now.

Guy: I just don't think it's possible.

Me: But...Alan Kay did it 40 years ago. His technical limitations are now moot.

Guy: We're going to have to agree to disagree.

Me: 🤨