@oliphant Agreed, Jeff draws a hard line between moderation (which seems to be very strong), and defederation (which he is unwilling to do even in extreme cases), and it's... difficult. Sometimes I see threads and think, man, literally using three different words could have caused that whole thing to go much better, dude!

He flatly disagrees that federation gives bad actors a safe harbor, since he's quick to moderate them off qoto itself. I... don't know how I feel about that. I kinda get the appeal of "keep my own house spotless and ignore the neighborhood," but enough people (like you) seem to be sure it creates issues. I just don't know what those issues are.