I think the shortsightedness of places like YouTube is always fascinating. With peertube making it easier to set up your own streaming and YouTube stuck on the one-way enshitification tracks, it's just a matter of time people start switching to alternatives eventually.
@mainframed767 until there's a path to monetization, creators earning money for their work, alternatives to youtube et al will never take off. People go to where the content is. You can see this in alphabet's earnings report: their fastest growing revenue is in subscriptions to youtube
@shadowsonawall sure, for now. But no monopoly like that lasts forever. Opensource software like peertube makes it easy for potential competitors to startup.
Besides, how many of those new YouTube subscribers are because they got really aggressive with ads in an effort to become more profitable.
@mainframed767 for sure, 100% of the increase is because of the ads - exceptionally few people pay for things when they don't have to. Which means, in its current form, content creators could only ever expect exceptionally little when pushing content to peertube. Until peertube includes a "you only get to watch this if I make some money for my efforts" capability, being open source won't impact things in any way.
Any ideas how you might add something like that to the protocol? So far as I can tell, federation itself makes that impossible.
@shadowsonawall ads, Subscriptions, etc. Ads are fine, tbh. Content doesn't have to be free. Maybe in the future, it's all still funded by double-click just youtube no longer hosts the content.
@mainframed767 federation means that the content gets copied to any/all interested servers. As soon as that happens the creator loses all control of the content. So far as I can tell, you have to have a centralized gatekeeper in order to enforce payment of any flavor.
@shadowsonawall can a peertube instance decide not to federated with anyone?
@mainframed767 they could, I suppose. At that point though, the majority of the peertube codebase is the opposite of helpful. The technical lift for streaming content for authenticated users from a centralized server certainly isn't blocking any would be youtube competitor.
@krupo @mainframed767 nebula.tv is another alternative slowly making headway. I don't know that any of them will really make a dent in youtube but they do apply pressure for it to keep improving which I consider a win.
@shadowsonawall @mainframed767 I've seen three creators I somewhat follow recently either quit YT or make big moves into shifting their content to Patreon so it may just be a matter of time