The fuck kind of headline is that, The Independent?

“OLD Biden has told Zelensky US will give Ukraine long-coveted ATACMS long-range missiles, report says”

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@aral

Old Biden. Dark Biden. Don't care.

As long as Ukraine gets what it needs to regain every inch of its territory.

@Npars01 @aral It might be better for the Democrats to run a younger candidate if they want to be able to win and continue supporting Ukraine. There is, after all, a whole year till the election, five months till the primaries...

@TomSwirly @Npars01 @aral It might, but I doubt it. Americans vote for names they recognize, household names. This fact is what enables the media to play kingmaker by deciding who gets discussed and who doesn't. This tactic doesn't work with Biden because he's the President and the most well-known democrat in the country. The media can't "disappear" him by not mentioning or discussing him.

@shuttersparks @Npars01 @aral Obama was not, in fact, a household name when he won the nomination. Clinton was not, in fact, a household name when he got the nomination.

On the other hand, today Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg are perfectly well-known.

With most of the country united on the fact he is too old, Biden seems certain to lose.

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@TomSwirly @Npars01 @aral I should add that amongst average Americans in Middle America, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, etc., are unheard of. Say those names here in West Virginia and you draw a blank. They are known to politically conscious people like you and I, who comprise just a small fraction of the general population. Unheard of to the average voter.

@shuttersparks @Npars01 @aral There's a year to fix that.

Yes, I agree that it's horrifying how the Democrats are wildly incompetent at giving candidates name recognition unless they are far right wing Democrats.

Really, why do you put with this?

Regardless, three quarters of Americans think Biden is too old.

The Democrats will run Biden, because they are wildly self-destructive that way, and likely lose. And we are will be fucked.

@TomSwirly @shuttersparks @aral

Democrats will run Biden because he has the highest chance of success.

And at this point, success against an anti-democracy movement funded by #KochNetwork fascist billionaires is what matters most.

Don't let perfection be the enemy of progress.

Biden has accomplished a lot and could accomplish more with stronger majorities. Like the Supreme Court reformation that's so desperately needed as the Chevron decision looms.
consumerfinancemonitor.com/202

@Npars01 @TomSwirly @shuttersparks@qoto.org @aral

sorry to be that guy but this is racist

@anilmc @Npars01 @aral You'll have to explain, because these look like very accurate caricatures of Mohammed bin Salman, Kim Jung Un, and Putin to the rest of us. Note MBS's bone saw, much like the one used to cut up the American journalist he had murdered...

If you are sorry to be that guy, then why be that guy? 🙂

@TomSwirly @anilmc @Npars01 @aral Same guy Biden fistbumped shortly after.

What's a dismembered journalist between friends?

@anilmc @TomSwirly@toot.community @aral

It is not racist to draw a cartoon of Kim Jong-Un who murdered his relatives, Mohammed bin Salman who murdered Washington Post reporter Kashoggi as he investigated public corruption & Jared Kushner, and Putin, who murders Ukrainians in a genocidal war.

@Npars01 @anilmc @aral It isn't racist at all, it is a cartoon based on how they present themselves.

@pmroman @Npars01 @aral

I recognise it depicts individuals, accompanied by signifiers of their individual identity but the artistic style of rendering their ethnicity is "orientalist".

E.g. KJU's imperceptible eyes, MBS's swarthiness, heft and beard (which he doesn't have IRL) and even Putin has the Russic cheeks and jowls. These are all stereotypes of the peoples, not the individuals.

I'm not offended by this, or gonna report it, but if it turns out the artist is reactionary, colour me 🤔

@anilmc @Npars01 @aral You have the right to your opinion, also the right to report the cartoon but since there are three equally criminal tyrants from three races, the cartoon is not racist, that simple.

@pmroman @Npars01 @aral

Thanks for taking the time to respond and acknowledging my legitimate POV; I stand by what I said but I ain't asking anyone to change anything for me.

For my own edification though, who is the artist?

@anilmc @pmroman @aral

A somewhat famous editorial cartoonist whose job is under threat at his newspaper by the political party these folks support.

His work is the antithesis of racist. He uses satire to underline the racist supporters of the GOP, including foreign despots.
Mohammed bin Salman is waging a racist war on Yemen. Putin is conducting ethnic cleansing in Armenia, Georgia, & Ukraine. Kim Jong Un is renowned for his mass murder and planned famines.
sltrib.com/opinion/bagley/2023

@Npars01 @anilmc @pmroman @aral

Interesting shot of the orange menace here. He almost looks ashamed of himself. #Impossible

@Npars01 @pmroman @aral

Again, thanks!

I looked at his work a bit, you're right that he is not a reactionary; I was wrong.

And ftr MBS, Putin and KJU are all savage despots, and would be delighted with another Trump WH. That was never my point.

Reflecting, I think Bagley's artistic style is just extra scornful, everyone looks grotesque, which is obviously expected for a caricature. The exaggeration of ethnic features is part of this which looked bad to my eyes. But it's equitable mockery.

@Npars01 @TomSwirly @shuttersparks @aral
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Now add a KKK member, neo-Nazi and multimillionaire "Christian pastor" (giant fluffy hair and white suit should identify them)

@TomSwirly @shuttersparks @aral

#KochNetwork owns 6 Supreme Court Justices and they will end all ability to control climate change and regulate the oil industry air pollution ruining the planet

@Npars01 @shuttersparks @aral I did explain that this conversation is bad for my mental health, did this not register with you?

If you don't want Trump to win, then running a candidate who Americans overwhelmingly think is too old is simply a bad idea.

Posting irrelevant political cartoons is a lack of an argument. We all agree Trump cannot be allowed to win.

Goodbye now.

@Npars01 @shuttersparks @aral I have twice now told you that I was finding this thread upsetting to my mental health, but you don't get the hint.

What's the point of the cartoons? We all agree that the Republicans are bad: that doesn't make Biden electable.

So let me be blunt: YOU ARE WORKING TOWARD A SECOND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION!

There is still time to NOMINATE AN ELECTABLE CANDIDATE, for Christ's sake. Your attitude is irresponsible and destructive.

Now leave me alone.

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