so ukraine invaded russia
... Lyman's Ukraine?
@Sui tought after the referenduns it was russian soverign territory
Who the fuck knows, referendums aren't exactly transparent at the best of times. Let alone with this many layers of war propaganda from all sides.
@Sui u cant say referendum gud and then lose territory 
Any/all of them could be lying tbh.
The slav war is basically a proxy cold war at this stage, and many countries are seemingly using ukraine to launder money through "foreign aid" regardless of what the citizens want.
Citizens are generally wanting fuel, food and warmth for winter..
It's all pretty fucked and distorted lol
The slav war is basically a proxy cold war at this stage, and many countries are seemingly using ukraine to launder money through "foreign aid" regardless of what the citizens want.
Citizens are generally wanting fuel, food and warmth for winter..
It's all pretty fucked and distorted lol
Civilians are always the ones who lose in any war, regardless if you think it's just or not
100%
The politicians are all busy lining their pockets through sketchy deals, even if it's subjectively just. They're all too willing to spend money that isn't theirs, on things that don't matter to the majority.
The politicians are all busy lining their pockets through sketchy deals, even if it's subjectively just. They're all too willing to spend money that isn't theirs, on things that don't matter to the majority.
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@Sui @SneedEmAndWeep @11112011 the way the Russians conduct their elections at home is already fucked up, any referendum is gonna be bullshit
it's just a legal fiction to lean on when they bring out the big guns, they don't have the finesse of the US when it comes to installing governments
@skells @Sui @SneedEmAndWeep ah the big guns ok
Democracy's pretty fucking sus in most countries tbh.
But yeah, it's prolly bullshit. Idgaf, I'm not a slav it ain't my war.
But yeah, it's prolly bullshit. Idgaf, I'm not a slav it ain't my war.
